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Education / Re: PB class OR 12 x 12 challenge?
« Last post by Mindy Alyse Weiss on Yesterday at 10:46 PM »
What a great Christmas gift to give yourself! Both options sound wonderful. I can't wait to see which one you choose.

As for knowing when something is revised enough to submit--I think everyone struggles with that to a certain degree. I used to send things out way too fast when I first started writing and can usually tell how close I'm getting by the feedback from my critique groups/beta readers and paid conference critiques.

Are you part of a great critique group? They're absolutely priceless, and I love being in both in person and online groups.

I think I want to give myself a Christmas gift of something that'll help with my PB writing. I have considered either an online PB class or joining the 12 x 12 challenge community, but I'm not sure which would be most helpful for someone just starting to seriously learn the craft. If you have experience with either 12x12 or online PB courses, can you say a little bit about how it may have helped your writing?

For me, the problem with writing is not getting ideas or drafting them, but revision. Like many people, I often think my work is "done" when it is not, and I don't feel like I know how to revise to make it better.  So if you have recommendations on resources that would particularly help with learning to revise, I would love to hear about them.

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Contests and Challenges / Re: NaNoWriMo2017
« Last post by Pons on Yesterday at 10:00 AM »
Sharing another line which shows great literary genius:

Shel picked up another pitchfork which was conveniently leaning against the side of the door, apparently unaffected by the high winds, and started to help.

No one can ever, ever look at this. Ever.

 :lol4 I feel the same way about my draft: no one can ever read it, but it is actually getting me to a better place. (I hope.)

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Contests and Challenges / Re: NaNoWriMo2017
« Last post by JFriday on Yesterday at 09:38 AM »
Sharing another line which shows great literary genius:

Shel picked up another pitchfork which was conveniently leaning against the side of the door, apparently unaffected by the high winds, and started to help.

No one can ever, ever look at this. Ever.
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Contests and Challenges / Re: NaNoWriMo2017
« Last post by JFriday on Yesterday at 08:48 AM »
Sandy, I laughed out loud at CockyBoy! Love it! And edible Flulilies? Oh, I'm hooked!!

And don't be impressed with my word count. I'm just trying to get this finished! You're right on target for finishing by the end of the month, as are the more sane people.

I've learned I write much better when I don't have a word count goal, particularly a massive one, hanging over my head. Instead of having the story unfolding to a good conclusion as my goal, the number becomes my goal. And the story suffers terribly. I mean as in stupendously, completely, awfully terribly.

I'm sure there are writers who excel under a number goal, but I'm not one of them. Lesson learned.
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Education / Re: PB class OR 12 x 12 challenge?
« Last post by HaroldU on Yesterday at 08:28 AM »
Teresa, Kid's Book Revisions will be offering an online class in picture book revision in February-April. We have posted the dates in our workshops page on the Kid's Book Revisions site, and we will be posting more information in the coming weeks.
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The Craft of Writing / MOVED: PB class OR 12 x 12 challenge?
« Last post by Vijaya on Yesterday at 05:54 AM »
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Education / Re: PB class OR 12 x 12 challenge?
« Last post by June Smalls on November 20, 2017, 04:00 PM »
The 12x12 challenge has webinars you can take every month (or most every month) plus they have an option to submit to one of two different agents every month. It has different levels. I participated for 3 years (I would have done it this year but I used the money to buy a couch for a friend.) I enjoyed the webinars with 12x12 and you can post your picture books to the private boards for critiques.
If you do a class find one that is comparable for the price.
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Education / PB class OR 12 x 12 challenge?
« Last post by Teresa Writes! on November 20, 2017, 01:50 PM »
I think I want to give myself a Christmas gift of something that'll help with my PB writing. I have considered either an online PB class or joining the 12 x 12 challenge community, but I'm not sure which would be most helpful for someone just starting to seriously learn the craft. If you have experience with either 12x12 or online PB courses, can you say a little bit about how it may have helped your writing?

For me, the problem with writing is not getting ideas or drafting them, but revision. Like many people, I often think my work is "done" when it is not, and I don't feel like I know how to revise to make it better.  So if you have recommendations on resources that would particularly help with learning to revise, I would love to hear about them.
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Contests and Challenges / Re: NaNoWriMo2017
« Last post by SandyM on November 20, 2017, 01:25 PM »
Also on fumes over here but not nearly as far along as you, JFriday! Now I'm just making up background stories for every character, building, agency, plant, etc. One of my main characters is still named CockyBoy because I haven't committed to a name yet. I have to admit that I'm still enjoying this world I've created though...and the extensive background of the edible Flulilies.  :flowers2

Happy writing, everyone!
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Contests and Challenges / Re: NaNoWriMo2017
« Last post by JFriday on November 20, 2017, 11:53 AM »
hairaplenty, I need several more coils of that miraculous rope. I'm running on idea fumes at this point and it's not pretty.

I realized I switched a couple of minor characters' names, and I just kept going. I really really really hope no one ever reads this. :huh

Hope everyone meets whatever goals they have this week!
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