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Just followed you back, Mercedes!  :thankyou

I'm going to look into the notification problem today. Without being able to alert followers that a new part is up, it is nearly impossible to get any "reads" traction. I had much more success months ago and am getting more traffic to tumblr than Wattpad now. Fascinating. :spock
#31 - August 10, 2015, 06:15 AM
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Okay, Wattpaders, I can't seem to get a straight answer even from Wattpad.

With the new profiles, did they do away with status updates, in particular the message that used to get sent to your followers that a new part to the story has posted? I'm getting alerts when a whole new story has posted, but no alerts when a new part goes up unless the writer messages his/her followers. Does anyone know?

Also, has anyone else found the clubs advantageous? I just joined a bunch and was curious.

Mecedes, we just started using Pixabay at work and it is AWESOME!  :yup
#32 - August 13, 2015, 07:23 AM
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I'm so happy that you liked Pixabay!  :stars3 :running  It's loaded with great images...   :paint:flowers2
#33 - August 13, 2015, 12:12 PM

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New story part alerts are working again!  :running Thank you, Wattpad! Sorry for the extra message about chapter 3 today, followers. Didn't know it was fixed.  :paperbag
#34 - August 14, 2015, 06:42 PM
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How good to know it's working now, Hilary!  :yay
Can't wait to read chapter 3 to see what happens to Jack, Ben, Deak and the rest of the gang!  :stars3 :yeah
#35 - August 15, 2015, 05:20 AM

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Thank you for ALL your support, Mercedes!  :grouphug2

I must say, I'm finding it harder to get reads this many months later (my gut tells me both the amount of content on the site and the number of users has increased significantly) but am having so much fun with it.  :yeah



#36 - August 16, 2015, 07:23 AM
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Congrats all. Before I sign up, anyone see any non-fiction there?
#37 - August 16, 2015, 04:03 PM

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Thank YOU, Hilary! You're very kind! :thankyou   :flowers2

 I'm so glad you're having fun!  :bunnyshake
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#39 - August 17, 2015, 06:24 PM
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FYI, two of the people I follow posted new story parts yesterday and I did not get an alert. I'm contacting Wattpad again. :sigh
#40 - August 18, 2015, 08:42 AM
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Hilary, I have never gotten an alert from Wattpad. :gaah
#41 - August 19, 2015, 05:00 AM
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I dropped by wattpad and downloaded their iOS app after reading of Atwood's interest and promotion thereof. Seems to me wattpad could be on the verge of transitioning into a respectable social-media platform for (at least) promotion of traditional authors and their works— children's, YA and beyond.

That said, much of the stuff posted there is IMO the worst kind of semiliterate dreck, with seemingly more effort expended on cover art than on writing. Doing a search on e.g. "mermaid" stories—of which I have been doing some project planning—brought up dozens of works. Once I got over the shock of the abysmal quality of mermaid-vampire-werewolf crossovers I felt heartened that, for this subject at least, the field was wide open.

My 17-y.o. daughter rolled her eyes when I mentioned wattpad, and advised me strongly not to put any of my writings there. But that could be a sentiment based on older perceptions and reputation; still I'm intrigued...
#42 - August 21, 2015, 07:26 AM
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A different view...

I think WattPad is like a high school battle of the bands. The kids have a lot of fun with the entertainment -- sometimes to cheer on and sometimes to mock. (At least I hope not all the comments are serious) But I haven't found any pearls randomly checking 'Hot' stories.

My son started a story that he says was 'unedited crap' and ended up with dozens of followers and six months of requests asking for more. He doesn't understand it. He says the story 'doesn't even go anywhere'

When a semi-pro/pro talent pops in, they sure look incredible, but I do wonder why they're 'performing' there. It's even stranger when I see a full book posted that is still for sale on amazon.

Anyway, just my two cents.
#43 - August 21, 2015, 06:59 PM

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This is a great discussion, thank you Alexander and David for contributing your thoughts. The main reason I got back up and running on Wattpad is that I feel like I need to understand it from the inside, especially now that as a book publicist, I've begun advising authors to give it a try.

Alexander, I would say that Wattpad is well past the verge of transitioning into a respectable social media platform after hitting 65 million unique users in December of last year. They also boast a very active user-base. It is, imo, the fact that it is such a dynamic social platform that makes it such a unique and interesting venue for amateur writers and established authors alike (Margaret Attwood is the perfect example). There's something to be said for the type of reader analytics Wattpad offers, like Andrew Rhomberg said in his The Fear of Data post on Digital Book World last week -- we have to understand how readers read these days in order to reach them better. http://www.digitalbookworld.com/2015/the-fear-of-data/?et_mid=777107&rid=239305325

You're not wrong about the semiliterate dreck either, which goes to David's fine points as well. It astounds me the utter lack of attention to even basic grammar and spelling and yes, it is a hotbed for Harry Styles fanfic and sparkly vampire love. All of this is symptomatic of the very environment that has the semi-pros and pro talent using it.

The glut.

It's hard to find readers these days, I don't care how reputable your publisher is. We work in an industry unlike any other where more and more product is coming to market (1 million books published last year) and where the sales for said product are shrinking. More books, fewer buyers. And then there's social media. Writers blog, they tweet, they Facebook and don't see there efforts on those platforms translating to sales.

Enter Wattpad. It's social (a more immersive, interactive environment), and it's a platform for readers so it's a lot easier to find your target audience there than on Twitter because of it.

Of course there's a lot of  :poop there. There's a lot of  :poop on Amazon being passed off as books for sale too. It's like any other social media platform, I think. You get out of it what you put in. That being said, the jury is still out for me. Why? It's been a lot harder this time around to get reads, probably because the site has become so popular. Are my authors (or me as a writer) simply facing the same issues they face in the larger marketplace? How do you compete with the glut? How do you get noticed? It is not easy.

At the end of the day, what you might get out of it though, are readers who are fully engaged with you as a writer and the work you produce. Don't discount fans and the power of even a relatively small but devoted fan base. And trust me when I say, in this marketplace you need all the help you can get. This is why, David, you see published books posted there especially if that book is the first in a series and why authors like Margaret Atwood are there.

I have, so far, had a wonderful experience with it and have been lucky enough to find some gems -- work that's quirky and outside the box that I know wouldn't find a home at a traditional publishing house and I'm glad it has a space to exist. I've also done my fair share of   ::) and  :aah and  :gaah there too.  :grin3

This type of feedback is so important to those of us trying to figure out how to get authors and their books noticed, so the more I hear from all of you the better!  :thankyou
#44 - August 24, 2015, 08:21 AM
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I haven't yet totaled my first 100 agent rejections, yet out of impatience I can't help but consider posting my ms (or at least a lean version thereof) as a serial on wattpad.

But, and it's a big but, mightn't that constitute "prior publication" so far as the more curmudgeonly publishers are concerned? If the ms be sufficiently different but tell 99% the same story, I should think it hunky-dory for generating buzz and, presumably, greater print readership. Is there a flaw in my argument?
#45 - August 24, 2015, 02:02 PM
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Yes, same as self-publishing it, a publisher or agent would see posting your ms online, anywhere, as prior publication. Some smaller, indie, digital only pubs might not care, but if you are considering traditional publishing I would steer clear. The ms I'm posting was shopped (and  :dr out of town because I pitched it as a digital first serial for MG) and is not a story that will ever be traditionally published.

Don't get me wrong. The big pubs are  :eyeballs Wattpad closely and people have gotten book deals but very, very few and their stories have gone the Wattpad equivalent of viral.

What about a spin off short? Or a ms you have stuck in a draw somewhere you could experiment with and re-write as a serial? Generating buzz around you as a writer helps too, and can help establish your author brand early on.

 :goodluck and keep us posted!

#46 - August 24, 2015, 02:26 PM
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#47 - August 24, 2015, 08:46 PM

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Mercedes, Pixabay is good! Thanks for the resource.
#48 - August 24, 2015, 08:47 PM

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Score 2 points for the Boards. yesterday, it was about MG swearing--a question I was going to ask. Today, it's Wattpad. Also a question I had. There was a Wattpad broadcast. I, who am forever coming late to the party was clueless. I knew it was where people tested their writing/stories, etc but I didn't think it could be used for anything else. So--do you just start an account? And, then what?
#49 - August 25, 2015, 05:27 AM

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LadySlipper, I've been meaning to start a Wattpad How To thread, since this one is more about meeting up with BBoarders over there. I'll start one asap and then others can chime in with tips and advice.

GO, WATTPADERS! :horse
#50 - August 25, 2015, 07:57 AM
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Thank you H. Pinski!
#51 - August 25, 2015, 01:49 PM

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I'm so glad you liked Pixabay, Rani! Hope you find lots of great pictures (it's 100% worth exploring, there's so many categories to see)!
What a coincidence we both wanted to know about MG swearing, Margo! I hope you found some useful ideas -I know I did!

Hugs! :)
#52 - August 27, 2015, 01:10 PM

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Guys...look what I found! Apparently Friday IS the best day to post! And library adds matter? I had no idea. I had a ranking for a brief two days and lost it, which makes sense if this info is right. Algorithms. Between Amazon and Facebook and Wattpad, who would have ever guessed writers would need to know so much about algorithms?

https://www.wattpad.com/38503140-cracking-the-wattpad-code-insider-secrets-the-pros

If anyone posts today, PM me on Wattpad (or here) and I'll make sure to read!

LadySlipper, I haven't forgotten about the Wattpad 101 post. It's coming, I promise.
#53 - August 28, 2015, 04:44 AM
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Feet to fire H. Pinski. Feet to fire. :D
#54 - August 28, 2015, 05:15 AM

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I almost spit my tea all over my computer, Lady.  :dr  :dragonchase
#55 - August 28, 2015, 05:22 AM
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:D hahaaha!
#56 - August 28, 2015, 06:52 AM

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I ranked again, with a slight jump (up to 824 in Science Fiction). Posting on Friday DEFINITELY makes a difference and it isn't just reads (I didn't get all that many), I think it really does have a lot to do with reads to votes/comments ratio.

I'm going to try posting on what are considered the worst days to post to test this. Fascinating. :spock

#57 - August 30, 2015, 06:42 AM
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I hadn't heard about Wattpad's Algorithm yet... It seems like we'll have to crack it! lol
#58 - August 31, 2015, 12:43 PM

I don't seem to get the algorithm either. Actually what I understand even less is why I get more views on poetry. I never honestly thought of myself as being a good poet.
#59 - September 29, 2015, 05:36 PM
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My 12-year-old daughter is on Wattpad (she started when she was 11). She posts stories and reads her friends' stories.

She tells me she's become "the editor" and is always correcting her friends' grammar and spelling. Like mother, like daughter...

(I told her to make sure her friends want her to correct them)

[edited for an errant apostrophe...how embarrassing]
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