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Post by: Artemesia on February 11, 2016, 06:03 PM
So I've been on a graphic novel reading binge lately. I've recently read the amazing masterpiece MAUS by Art Spiegelman (a holocaust memoir), the very funny and charming NIMONA by Noelle Stevenson and Lumberjanes Vol 1&2 by Noelle Stevenson and others, Anya's Ghost by Vera Brosgol about a Russian immigrant girl trying to fit in and the ghost she befriends, Through the Woods by Emily Carroll, a collection of five short stories which were creepy and chilling and had beautiful artwork, and Beautiful Darkness by Kerascoet and Vehlmann, which was weird and strange and kind of wonderful.

I also read Understanding Comics and Making Comics by Scott McCloud and Graphic Storytelling and Visual Narrative by Will Eisner.

Anyone else read any good graphic novels lately? Anyone else working on a graphic novel?
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Post by: Claudine Gueh on February 11, 2016, 08:42 PM
I love Matt Phelan's graphic novels, especially AROUND THE WORLD. I'm going to track down the titles you've mentioned here.
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Post by: HDWestlund on February 11, 2016, 08:59 PM
If you haven't yet read AMERICAN BORN CHINESE, you should. I think it's pretty brilliant. ROLLER GIRL by Victoria Jamieson is also very good--much more in the realistic camp than what you've been reading, though. I also really liked CASTLE WAITING by Linda Hedley. It's often shelved in kids, but it's a bit more mature than most kids' graphic novels--not in a way that kids would necessarily pick up on, but there's layers in the stories for all ages.
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Post by: Artemesia on February 11, 2016, 09:23 PM
The first two you mentioned are on my TBR list, Holly, and I will look for the third as well! Thanks!

And Claudine I've heard of Matt Phelan's work and definitely need to make sure I put it on my TBR list. Thanks for the rec!

I also really want to read the Hark! A Vagrant! Books by Kate Beaton. And Zita the Space girl by Ben Hatke. And Descender by Jeff Lemire and Dustin Nguyen, and ApocalyptiGirl by Andrew MacLean. And and and...lol (I actually am compiling quite a lengthy GN TBR list, lol)
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Post by: Barbara Etlin on February 11, 2016, 10:30 PM
LETTERS FROM CAMP by Kate Klise and illustrated by M. Sarah Klise is a very funny middle-grade graphic novel.
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Post by: nilaffle on February 12, 2016, 12:17 AM
So many good GNs listed (loved ANYA'S GHOST)! I need to pick up ROLLER GIRL and Emily Carroll's latest, I'm curious about both. I've been trying to read more kids GNs lately. I cannot rave enough about EL DEAFO Cece Bell and both SISTERS and SMILE by Raina Telgemeier. Read THIS ONE SUMMER by Jillian and Mariko Tamaki a few months ago, a thoughtful story. I've got Gene Yang's BOXERS & SAINTS sitting in my TBR pile, I really need to get started. Augh, too many books! Also, just read LITTLE ROBOT by Ben Hatke, a quick read but very cute.

It's not out yet, but I got my hands on an arc of Faith Erin Hicks's upcoming THE NAMELESS CITY, and that's definitely one to watch for!

As for working on, I've always got a comic in the works... they just take so long to draw! I'm collaborating with a writer on one I'm really excited about, in the meantime my webcomic keeps me busy: http://www.mfkcomic.com
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Post by: olmue on February 12, 2016, 04:04 AM
I'm enjoying Lora Innes's The Dreamer series. It started as a web comic (www.thedreamercomic.com) that she's turned into print. There are three volumes out and she's maybe 2/3? 3/4? of the way through the story as far as the online part. Modern Bostonian girl starts dreaming she's in 1776--and things start to get real when she starts living through historical events she never paid attention to in school. The art is fantastic, the history well researched, the friends and boys spot on... A great, original YA GN.
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Post by: marla-lesage on February 12, 2016, 04:58 AM
I recently read Two Generals by Scott Chantler (not a children's GN) and was surprised how much I enjoyed it. I've never been Into GN's. But I thought it might be a good medium for a story idea I have so I'm starting to read them. Roller Girl is fantistic - I really really enjoyed it. And I really want to read Child Soldier: http://www.kidscanpress.com/products/child-soldier , but it's not at my library so I have to wait.
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Post by: Artemesia on February 12, 2016, 08:14 AM
Nilah, MFK has been on my list for a while. I've actually had it open in a web browser for a few days, and have read the first bit. Your work is awesome!

I'm just in the research and planning stage for my first true GN, but really, most of my work has had GN influence.

Thanks for all the great recs! Our GN board is so quiet most of the time, I'm really glad to see others here are reading GNs and comics too!
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Post by: HDWestlund on February 12, 2016, 08:51 AM
Olmue, the Dreamer series sounds fantastic. I'll have to look for it.

I also have to say that I've had the privelege of being an early reader for Mike Lawrence's STAR SCOUTS, which is coming out in...2017? It's a little ways out, but I want other people to be as excited about it as I am. ::-)
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on February 12, 2016, 06:32 PM
Fans of ROLLER GIRL and Raina Telgemeier should definitely try SUNNY SIDE UP by the Holms sibs and AWKWARD by Svetlana Chmakova. Both charming and thoughtful and clear.
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Post by: christripp on February 13, 2016, 02:59 AM
Also a big fan of Matt Phelan's GN's, "Storm in the Barn" is amazing and was his first. A few years ago now I attended a weekend SCBWI conference held at the Highlights Foundation retreat (WOW, what a place, if you ever get a chance to stay there GO, free access to hagen daz Ice cream day and night and a gorgeous building, grounds:)
Matt Phelan ran the 2 day GN workshop for Illustrators and it was eye opening (eye POPPING actually). Till then I was struggling with a story that I thought should be a pic book (because I wanted to Illustrate it of course) but the topic was NOT really suited to the under 6 age group. At that workshop it suddenly dawned on me, hell, it's a GN!!!:) So much work but such freedom for an Illustrator to "TELL" their story!
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Post by: christripp on February 13, 2016, 03:05 AM
There's also the mega award winner (Caldecott honour, GG winner for Illustration, NYT notable children's books etc etc) "This One Summer" http://jilliantamaki.com/books/this-one-summer/

I believe Matt has at least 4 GN Titles out.

And for beginning readers there's the very cute "Baby Mouse" series.
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Post by: Artemesia on February 13, 2016, 09:16 AM
Oh, my stepdaughter loves Baby Mouse. It's super cute!

And that conference sounds amazing, Chris! (And I've also got one of those PBs that really should be a GN stories!)
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on February 14, 2016, 07:56 AM
Yesterday I read:
SACRED HEART by Liz Suburbia, which had won a YMA Alex Award, but I will say after reading it and buying it for my YA collection, I'm going to move it to adult due to the on-screen sex. However, other than that, I still didn't really *get it.* Did anyone else read it?

I also just read the "Art Masters" first release in the US: VINCENT by Barbara Stok, a beautiful biography of Van Gogh that uses his style in the art panels. Lovely! PABLO comes out next.
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Post by: Shari on February 14, 2016, 04:22 PM
I haven't read many, but I recently read and loved ROLLER GIRL. I also loved EL DEAFO, a graphic memoir.
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Post by: christripp on February 15, 2016, 04:31 AM
Wow, WOW, Dina, that looks like some powerful GN!!! I haven't read it but there's a number of "look inside" pages and it's so upsetting to think this is based on the Author/Illustrators life:( I can only imagine that if it were a text novel only, it would be less disturbing but the Illustration takes it right over the top. Which is GOOD but makes it ... well... a more graphic story, must have been very hard to read the whole thing. From the reviews you can see another person who says they too were left in that same Catholic orphanage, just unbelievable, so, so sad!!!

Cyndi, have you started your GN once pic book?:) I'm such a procrastinator. All the way back from that con I was so excited, determined to start right away and then the sheer work of such a thing overwhelmed me. Haven't done more then a few pages since then:(
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Post by: christripp on February 15, 2016, 04:41 AM
Oops, just noticed the Authors name for the GN Sacred Heart you posted about Dina. I ended up finding an entirely different GN and didn't notice the Author of it was not Liz. Sorry about what must have seemed to you a very confusing comment above:) Here's the one I was reacting to, By Kathy O'Connell.
http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Heart-Orphanage-Story-Autobiography/dp/144866960X
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Post by: Artemesia on February 15, 2016, 09:11 AM
I'd be very interested to read that, Chris. My mom and her siblings were in an orphanage in Saskatchewan for several years after her mother abandoned them and she did not have a happy experience.

And no, I haven't started adapting the PB to GN yet. I'm in the middle of three other projects, and it's on my to do list. So many projects, so little time. Lol. And yeah, the sheer amount of work in a GN looks overwhelming, but after I did four 80 page KPC books in a little over a year I feel like I can get through almost anything lol.

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Post by: dinalapomy101 on February 15, 2016, 04:24 PM
Chris -- Now I am interested in that other Sacred Heart GN!
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Post by: Vijaya on February 15, 2016, 05:53 PM
Some great titles here for me to check out.

My family loves the Tin-Tin books and we've enjoyed the Marvel comics. In newer books, I loved Invention of Hugo Cabaret. Stitches by David Small was an incredible memoir.

Vijaya

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Post by: nilaffle on February 17, 2016, 12:02 AM
Ahhhh how could I forget AWKWARD! It is so, so good. And if you're into urban fantasy/supernatural, the creator's other series NIGHTSCHOOL is a lot of fun.

I need to get back to THE DREAMER too. If there are any Hamilton fans on the board itching for more tales from the American Revolution, THE DREAMER is a must-read.

Ahhh Artemesia, thank you, I'm glad you've got it on your to-read list! Kids' graphic novels is a market I'd love to see grow. It has been getting bigger in recent years, but we can always use more titles!
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Post by: Marissa Doyle on February 17, 2016, 07:23 AM
Vijaya, if you and they love Tin Tin (we do too!), you should try the Asterix the Gaul series!

Not kidlit per se (though it could entirely be YA) but I loved The Thrilling Adventures of Lovelace and Babbage, which starts with historical figures (early computing pioneers Ada Byron Lovelace and Charles Babbage) and launches them into wonderful steampunk adventures. The author/illustrator did an amazing amount of historical research so that the clothes and backgrounds are all historically correct for the period...and then just takes it all ten notches higher. Huge fun.
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Post by: Artemesia on February 17, 2016, 08:37 AM
Marissa, Asterix was a favorite of mine when I was a kid!! My brother read them, so of course I did too, lol.


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Post by: dinalapomy101 on February 17, 2016, 05:00 PM
Seriously, at this point in time I cannot keep MG graphic novels on my shelf at the library if they are in the vein of Raina Telgemeier. We get more questions from (usually girls) who have read DRAMA, ROLLER GIRL, SUNNY SIDE UP, EL DEAFO, AWKWARD, and other colorful, coming-of-age GNs who want "more like that!" To whoever has the power to write and illustrate them, please keep going! Right now there is still a HUGE demand.
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Post by: Artemesia on February 17, 2016, 05:05 PM
That's so great to hear, Deena!
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Post by: TanjaW on April 13, 2016, 12:45 PM
Seriously, at this point in time I cannot keep MG graphic novels on my shelf at the library if they are in the vein of Raina Telgemeier. We get more questions from (usually girls) who have read DRAMA, ROLLER GIRL, SUNNY SIDE UP, EL DEAFO, AWKWARD, and other colorful, coming-of-age GNs who want "more like that!" To whoever has the power to write and illustrate them, please keep going! Right now there is still a HUGE demand.
  Good to know! I'm finally submitting my first GN proposal to agents this year. Took forever while I went down a few unexpected paths as author/illustrator, but it's finally ready to become a real graphic novel. :)
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Post by: Artemesia on April 13, 2016, 12:56 PM
Tanja! You're back! So glad to see you posting again!
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on April 14, 2016, 04:04 PM
Yay Tanja! Wishing you the best of luck so I can [selfishly] have more books to give the kids/teens at my lib! ;-)
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Post by: SarahW on May 19, 2016, 10:59 PM
A friend of mine thinks I should read Trans-metropolitan.

But I'm really craving graphic novels that read like graphic Haruki Murakami.
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Post by: JennaWren on May 20, 2016, 04:51 AM
Oh, I'm so glad this thread popped up again! I was going to come here and ask for recs -- my 10yo reluctant reader discovered GNs this year and devours them. El Deafo, Sunny Side Up, Roller Girl have been faves. After trying so long to get her to read anything, I'm eager to get more books into her hands.  :love5
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Post by: Artemesia on May 20, 2016, 07:12 AM
Jen, Zita the Spacegirl is super cute, too! I have the first one, but it's a series.
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on May 21, 2016, 01:05 PM
Am I the only one excited that JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS vol. 2 just came out? :)
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Post by: molly-schafer on June 09, 2016, 10:51 AM
Hi. I've been a member for a few years but never posted before. Hope I'm doing this right! I've been working on comics and GN for awhile. It is a slow process! GNs I've read or reread lately include Roller Girl ( I love this one), Mouseguard, Noodleheads, and Drama. Looking forward to checking out some of the suggestions on here
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Post by: Artemesia on June 09, 2016, 11:19 AM
Welcome, Molly! (and yes, you're doing it right!  ;D )

Am I the only one excited that JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS vol. 2 just came out? :)

Really?? Like Jem from the eighties cartoon that I was obsessed with as a kid, not the reportedly horrible film adaptation that was out a little while ago? (I didn't see it but heard it was bad and don't want my childhood ruined, lol)
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on June 09, 2016, 01:17 PM

Really?? Like Jem from the eighties cartoon that I was obsessed with as a kid, not the reportedly horrible film adaptation that was out a little while ago? (I didn't see it but heard it was bad and don't want my childhood ruined, lol)

YES!

http://catalogplus.libraryweb.org/?section=resource&resourceid=836283153
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Post by: Artemesia on June 09, 2016, 01:57 PM
OMG OMG OMG

 :love5
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Post by: Margaret Ikeda on June 09, 2016, 04:32 PM
Oh, I'm so glad this thread popped up again! I was going to come here and ask for recs -- my 10yo reluctant reader discovered GNs this year and devours them. El Deafo, Sunny Side Up, Roller Girl have been faves. After trying so long to get her to read anything, I'm eager to get more books into her hands.  :love5

WOW that's great that you've got a little GN fan in your home, Jenna! Have they tried Lumberjanes? They're the trade paperback of a comics series so not as long as some like El Deafo, but still great, fun reads. 3 volumes so far, I believe.

Hi Molly! I'm new, too, and really enjoy Mouseguard.

And I'm sooo excited for Jem & the Holograms Vol. 2, though I think I've read most of them already as comics. Always great to reread them as trade paperbacks (TPs) though.
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Post by: Artemesia on June 09, 2016, 05:48 PM
I have the first two Lumberjanes (picked them up after reading Nimona as Noelle Stevenson is one of the creators), they are so fun! My 12 year old step-daughter loves them too.
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Post by: molly-schafer on August 02, 2016, 03:43 AM
I think I may need to start looking for a critique group or support group ;) for comics/graphic novels. I have a few versions of my story and I'm debating which direction to go. It's difficult because I write/draw as one thought process so its a long process to figure this all out. Of course these are all scattered about in piles and 3 different sketchbooks and not quite fit or organized for anyone to read/see.  I just got the first Amulet by Kazu Kibushi from the library looking forward to reading.
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Post by: Artemesia on August 02, 2016, 11:22 AM
Got Lumberjanes #3 (super cute) and Awkward a few weeks ago. I loved Awkward, thanks for the rec on that, guys. My niece also lent me Drama, which I liked but not as much as Smile and Sisters. Looking forward to her new one that's coming out in September, Ghosts.

I still have SO many on my wishlist.  :sigh
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on August 02, 2016, 06:50 PM
I feel like I need to load up on some new YA GNs for my library collection now that I have MORE SHELF SPACE for them! Open to recs...has anyone read any of these nominations on YALSA? http://www.ala.org/yalsa/ggnt/nominations


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Post by: Artemesia on August 02, 2016, 07:03 PM
I've read the first bit of Giant Days (there was a sample in another book), I really liked it and would love to read the rest!

And of course Lumberjanes #3. Super cute series.
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Post by: JennaWren on August 03, 2016, 10:53 AM
I have got to find Lumberjanes at the library!

We got Awkward, which my 10yo didn't get into, but my 11yo read three times, lol.

Our library does have a couple of GN shelves, but most seem to be either manga/Pokemon/super hero (which my girls aren't into) or to "young" for them. My girls picked out about 4-5 between them, and at the checkout the librarian said how excited she was about all these great new GNs coming out, so hopefully they'll stock even more!
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Post by: lee-bernstein on August 03, 2016, 01:48 PM
LETTERS FROM CAMP by Kate Klise and illustrated by M. Sarah Klise is a very funny middle-grade graphic novel.

Barbara: Thank you for recommending a GN that boasts an author who is not the illustrator! Lumberjanes books are others. Does anyone else here know of other great GNs with a separate author? They give my I-can't-even-draw-a-stick-figure side hope.     
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on August 03, 2016, 07:10 PM
This One Summer is written by Mariko Tamaki & illustrated by Jillian Tamaki. It won a Caldecott, and the author has said something along the lines of she can't even draw a stick figure. :)
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Post by: HDWestlund on August 03, 2016, 10:32 PM
Just picked up The Nameless City the other week, and liked it a lot. Sort of an Avatar: The Last Airbender type feel.
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Post by: lee-bernstein on August 04, 2016, 07:25 AM
This One Summer is written by Mariko Tamaki & illustrated by Jillian Tamaki. It won a Caldecott, and the author has said something along the lines of she can't even draw a stick figure. :)

Thank you!  I'm off to find a copy.
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Post by: Artemesia on December 12, 2016, 01:34 PM
Just got Monstress #1 by Marjorie Liu and Sana Takeda (art is amazing, can't wait to dive in and read it) and wanted to bump this thread.

:bump
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Post by: andracill on December 12, 2016, 03:32 PM
I noticed they made a GN for Legend by Marie Lu. I'm fairly certain she's not the illustrator. ;)

Raina Telginer (spelling?) has a new one out (Ghost Story, I believe it's called). And I saw a new author (to me) that I also picked up for my 13-year old who loves GNs (it's already wrapped, so I don't have the title). I noticed quite a few more than usual at this year's Scholastic Warehouse sale...
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Post by: Artemesia on December 12, 2016, 03:45 PM
Raina Telgemeier's new one is called Ghosts. I don't have it yet, but my MIL got it for my niece for Christmas so I might just wait and borrow it from her, lol. I can't wait to read it!!
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Post by: marla-lesage on December 12, 2016, 04:26 PM
I have Raina Telgemeier's Ghosts, it is fantastic. I can't wait to read her others. Recently read Cece Bell's El Deafo - also great. And Vera Brosgal's Anya's Ghost - with me kids who are way too young for a YA book so I had to skim/skip a few things for their sake. Very well written. Sunny Side Up by Jennifer & Matthew Holm was good too. I really like this style of graphic novel.
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on December 12, 2016, 05:08 PM
Since I've been on maternity leave (rather than working at my library where I usually snag new GNs) I'm so behind on GNs! Thanks for bumping this thread. I definitely need to get GHOSTS!
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Post by: HDWestlund on December 12, 2016, 05:30 PM
I recently discovered Kaoru Mori who does slice of life historical manga. Bride's Story is from 19th century Silk Road. I haven't been able to find the other series at the library yet.
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Post by: molly-schafer on December 13, 2016, 04:50 PM
Ooh I recently read Cece Bell's "El Deafo" and I love it so so much. That is all.
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on December 13, 2016, 06:20 PM
I did read Vol. 1 of A BRIDE'S STORY! I enjoyed it as well!
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Post by: JennaWren on December 14, 2016, 06:10 AM
My 11yo has and loves Ghosts and put on her Christmas list "all of Raina's other books" because even though she's read them, she wants to own them, lol. Got the 10yo her own copy of Sunny Side Up, which she put on her list, also because she loves it so much she wants to own it.

I have a running list now by my computer, thanks to you all!
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Post by: beardedillustrations on April 25, 2017, 12:04 PM
There was one mention of The Nameless City in the thread, but, really, ANYTHING by Faith Erin Hicks would be a worthwhile read. Superhero Girl, Friends with Boys, and Nothing Can Possibly Go Wrong are her most recent ones (after the Nameless City series, of course [side note: it just got signed to be adapted as an animated show!]).

My personal all-time favorite graphic novelist is Craig Thompson. However, his work is mostly geared towards an adult audience (Blankets and Habibi are definitely NOT for kids).  Space Dumplins is would be excellent for upper-elementary age, though.

I've recently been going through the Scott McCloud how-to books in an attempt to up my game as I am currently working on the script for a GN (long ways to go yet). Recently, my biggest comic consumption has been through webcomics (Prague Race, Sulfur and Salt, Vattu, Mias & Elle, The Meek, and Mare Internum are some of my favorites).
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Post by: marla-lesage on April 27, 2017, 08:56 AM
Hope Larson is great two. I enjoyed Chiggers  and Mercury. There's a bit of magical realism which is just the right amount of magic for me.  Also in the middle of Persepolis (complete version) by Marjane Satrapi (memoir). I found part I in the adult GN section of my library but the mc is a child (maybe age 8-14) so I think it could have easily been labelled YA. Was fascinated to learn it was her first effort to learn the genre.
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Post by: beardedillustrations on April 27, 2017, 11:07 AM
Persepolis (complete version) by Marjane Satrapi (memoir). I found part I in the adult GN section of my library but the mc is a child (maybe age 8-14) so I think it could have easily been labelled YA. Was fascinated to learn it was her first effort to learn the genre.

I only saw the film, which combined the first two Persepolis. It dealt with some pretty heavy content - rape, murder, warfare, lots of language - I haven't gotten around to reading the comics yet, but if the film was an accurate representation (which I believe it is, given that Marjane Satrapi directed it), then I don't think I could bring myself to categorize it as YA. Some people in that age group would be fine with it, but not everyone.
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Post by: dinalapomy101 on April 28, 2017, 06:06 AM
I only saw the film, which combined the first two Persepolis. It dealt with some pretty heavy content - rape, murder, warfare, lots of language - I haven't gotten around to reading the comics yet, but if the film was an accurate representation (which I believe it is, given that Marjane Satrapi directed it), then I don't think I could bring myself to categorize it as YA. Some people in that age group would be fine with it, but not everyone.

At my public library, our YA section is for grades 6-12, so we have PERSEPOLIS there, but I do think it could go in adult, too! Graphic novels are tough to break down by age group, I've found. Lots of titles in our YA area feature adult characters but the situations are fine for most older teen readers. We have thought about just having a Graphic Novel section with materials intermixed for all ages, BUT then you could end up with a 6-year-old checking out PERSEPOLIS or a 10-year-old taking home Y: THE LAST MAN and his parents getting upset about it. Yet I have WALKING DEAD in with teens.

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Post by: marla-lesage on April 28, 2017, 11:56 AM
I only saw the film, which combined the first two Persepolis. It dealt with some pretty heavy content - rape, murder, warfare, lots of language - I haven't gotten around to reading the comics yet, but if the film was an accurate representation (which I believe it is, given that Marjane Satrapi directed it), then I don't think I could bring myself to categorize it as YA. Some people in that age group would be fine with it, but not everyone.

You do have a good point. I still think it fits easily into either genre though (Part 1 - I haven't read part 2. But she is older in part 2 so as a whole combined definitely adult.) Not as violent as Hunger Games IMO and rape is not erotica  - sex is fine in YA if it is true to the story. I don't recall rape or sexual themes in Part 1 (Part 1 is it's own book as a whole. I didn't find out there was a sequel until I went online and started researching Marjane Satrapi). I think this is a pretty common convo re: YA vs Adult. With graphic novels it's a bit more in your face with the illos but in Persepolis I found the depictions of violence to be more representative whereas in Walking Dead it seems more graphic/gorey. I do keep my Graphic Novel selections higher/away in my house so that my 5 & 8 year old don't stumble across something I don't think they need to read yet. Although by the time they hit grade 6-7 I'd be fine with them choosing their own books from either the YA or Adult section of the library. But I'm not a big believer in censoring those topics - likely because I read anything & everything at that age. I know there's lots of parents/teachers out there who feel differently.
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Post by: alan-jordan on July 09, 2020, 10:54 AM
Working on GN for 4-8 with David Monroy, TALL TALES OF THE CIRCUS.  Want to take a peek at the first two illustrations? 
https://read.bookcreator.com/vJCZG63tQWX08ChRJGnXR6QtUAI2/o5Z6H4MMQ_2EDS8LuntW4w (https://read.bookcreator.com/vJCZG63tQWX08ChRJGnXR6QtUAI2/o5Z6H4MMQ_2EDS8LuntW4w)
Title: Re: Graphic novels, anyone?
Post by: david-rickert1 on July 23, 2020, 05:56 PM
I'm working on one! It's a set of Greek Myths done as comics for 4th -6th grades.
Title: Re: Graphic novels, anyone?
Post by: andy-nordvall on July 24, 2020, 07:54 PM
DC is doing some excellent MG Graphic Novels. I'd recommend ANTI/HERO by  Kate Karyus Quinn  (Author), Demitria Lunetta  (Author), Maca Gil (Illustrator) and Harley Quinn: Breaking Glass by Mariko Tamaki  (Author), Steve Pugh (Illustrator). Also, NEW KID by Jerry Craft is amazing, recently won the Newberry.