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I just noticed that some of the Cricket family nonfiction magazines include fiction in their submission guidelines:

"Fiction 750–1000 words Includes: authentic historical and biographical fiction, adventure, and retold legends relating to the theme."

The submission guidelines ask for:

    A brief cover letter stating the subject and word length of the proposed article.
    A detailed one-page outline explaining the information to be presented in the article.
    An extensive bibliography of materials the author intends to use in preparing the article.

The bibliography is no problem, but does this mean they want an outline of a fiction piece too? Has anyone here had experience with this?

They also ask for writing samples for writers new to the magazine. Would it be strange to send the actual story as a writing sample in this case?

Thanks very much for any tips!
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#1 - December 07, 2017, 01:44 AM
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I've queried NF to Cobblestone twice, sadly without success. But I did include an outline and reading the guidelines you've noted, it appears for the type of fiction they want, yes, I would include the outline.

I'm not sure how to answer your question about the writing samples. I was fortunate to have magazine articles published in one of their sister magazines, so I used those for samples. Do you have any samples at all that have been published to use?
#2 - December 07, 2017, 06:44 AM

Thanks for your thoughtful reply, dkshumaker!

I read something somewhere about "unedited samples" and thought they wanted to see writing samples made by the author alone. Now I realize that maybe they are looked for unedited published samples.

It should be an interesting exercise to try anyway.
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Hmm, I'm out of the loop. I'm not sure what "unedited published samples" would be. All published work would be edited.
#4 - December 07, 2017, 07:37 AM

I'm sure it's me who's out of the loop. I came up with the theory of unedited published samples when I googled it--trying to find it in the submission guidelines--and google gave me images of published articles.
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Laurel, I've pitched and published both fiction and NF to the Cricket group and yes, you'd want to submit an outline. You don't want to submit the actual story because they might want you to change the focus. It's also much easier to reject a finished piece than one that's still a possibility. It doesn't mean you can't write the story--just submit what they ask for. Writing samples can either be clips (published work) or unpublished sample stories you've written. They just want to get a sense of your style.

Good luck!
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It's also a good idea to look for fiction in these. I have seen very few fiction pieces in Cobblestone and Dig and all were plays or retellings of some form of folklore. (I wrote teachers' guides for both magazines and am quite familiar with content up until last July or so.) I'm not familiar with the science magazines.
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I've sent them some things non-fiction and fiction, but nothing has been accepted yet.    Also, I asked about samples of writing and they responded that I don't have to include samples that it isn't necessary. 
#8 - December 07, 2017, 08:16 PM

Thanks so much for weighing in--that's great advice Vijaya and Debbie! Hope you get some good news on your subbed work Onestepp!
Laurel
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I recently saw this for a Cricket submission: “Queries should give an overview of the proposed article, including scope and treatment, resources, and a draft opening paragraph.” I’ve never submitted to a children’s magazine. Does this language simply mean a summary and/or outline.  Overview, scope, and treatment seems very specifically asking for three things. Does anyone know where I might be able to see an example?  And resources: Does that mean your tentative bibliography? Thanks for any help you can give!
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Sherry, yes, they like to have a short summary, outline, and list of potential sources (bibliography). Here's an article I wrote about pitching: http://vijayabodach.blogspot.com/2016/09/query-letters-personal-journey.html 
Good luck, Vijaya
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Thanks so much,  Vijaya!
#12 - February 02, 2018, 06:43 PM

Vijaya,
Thanks so much for posting a link to your article. I'm going to try and take courage from your example.
Regards,
Laurel
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I'll add that the NF mags seem to like stories with active child learners, and to be the best fit, you'd want to write a story that fits an issue theme. For example, a NF mag publishing an issue about butterflies might go for a fictional story about a child who plants a butterfly garden, provided the facts about how the garden was planted have been researched and have a bibliography to back them up.

Hope that helps!
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