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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Querying Agent vs. Publisher
« Last post by olmue on July 14, 2021, 04:56 AM »
If you plan to submit to agents then do that first. If you submit your manuscript to publishers and are turned down by all of them, and then think, oh, I'll get an agent--you have just limited the number of editors your agent can submit a shopped manuscript to. They are not going to bring it back to someone who has already turned it down.

Yes, it is difficult to get an agent. But it is difficult to get an editor, too. And many editors will not even look at a manuscript unless it comes in via an agent. 

If you aren't interested in an agent then you might want to go to conferences, as sometimes visiting editors will allow you to submit things to them during a short window of time after the conference (even if they are normally closed to non-agented submissions.)

Anyway, just some things to consider.
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Picture Books (PB) / Querying Agent vs. Publisher
« Last post by katie-cruickshank on July 13, 2021, 10:15 PM »
After a polishing a PB manuscript, how does one decide whether they will query publishers directly OR literary agents? My understanding is that offers of agent representation for an unpublished PB author come through at astoundingly low rates. Does that persuade most to query direct to publishers? Are there other factors to consider? Trying to organize a query list now and couldn't help but stumble on the first hurdle: publisher or agent.
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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Rubik’s cube image copyright
« Last post by Debbie Vilardi on July 13, 2021, 06:18 PM »
If you're self publishing, go for it. If not, hold onto this until you have a publisher lined up and let them know you have it taken care of. They may agree to pay the fee. In general, attorneys at publishing houses look for such things.
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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Rubik’s cube image copyright
« Last post by jeffrey-vancleave on July 13, 2021, 12:59 PM »
I decided the safest thing to do was seek permission. From the makers of Rubik’s cube. The legal department was very responsive and sent me a contract within 48 hrs for permission.  I have to pay $100 and document somewhere in the book that permission was given.
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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Rubik’s cube image copyright
« Last post by David Wright on July 11, 2021, 05:53 PM »
Hi Jeffrey

Is it a puzzle cube or a Rubik's cube? And is it the only thing on the cover or is it in amongst other objects. Generally what you have to determine is whether using that image gives you a commercial advantage and if the cube is incidental to the art .

But asking a lawyer is best.
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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Rubik’s cube image copyright
« Last post by ButterflyGirl on July 11, 2021, 02:28 PM »
Hello Jeffrey,

I posted a similar question a few days ago about mentioning Coke and Lifesavers in my middle grade novel. Vijaya offered some fantastic links in her response, they might be helpful in answering your question:
https://www.scbwi.org/boards/index.php?topic=91892.msg1128403#msg1128403

I also posted my question on Twitter, and agent Uwe Stender tweeted this link about trademarks in fiction. It was written by an intellectual property attorney:
https://www.sidebarsaturdays.com/2017/05/20/httpwp-mep7vddb-hr/

By the way, someone DM'd me on Twitter about a picture book that includes Jello: Birdy’s Smile Book by Laurie Keller. I'm not sure if the Jello is an illustration, but it seems likely that it would be. The publisher may have requested permission from Jello (Kraft-Heinz), but it may have fallen naturally under trademark rules of "fair use," as explained in the articles, and perhaps no permission was needed.

I'm not an attorney, just sharing recent research and wishing you the best!
 :star2


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Picture Books (PB) / Rubik’s cube image copyright
« Last post by jeffrey-vancleave on July 11, 2021, 12:06 PM »
I have a page in my book about thinking through problems and asking for help if needed.  The illustration has a puzzle cube in it, and I am concerned the Rubiks Cube folks would sue if I publish the work. Their website certainly makes it sound like they could.  Do I need permission to have a puzzle cube in the illustration?
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I'm so glad this is moving in the right direction.

I wouldn't worry about someone coming upon the threads. We do clean out older ones periodically. It may benefit other members too. (You are not alone in this.) And this thread doesn't mention names, so if they search for themselves or their company, it won't show up. But I'm also one of those people who believes in keeping everything. If you decide to remove it, no problem.
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Hi all  ::-) just an update!

I had a Zoom call with the editor today and it went pretty well. She did say her changes were more suggestions than definites, and was pretty open to the blend of our edits that I pitched in a document I sent to her ahead of time. Hopefully that will be the version we end up going with, though she did say she was going to run it by one more person who sometimes edits for them because she likes to have a few different sets of eyes on things before finalizing. I guess we will see what happens, but either way I'm going to continue to push for a version I'm happy with. I did mention to her that if I'm going to be marketing and promoting this book, I need to be happy with the writing in the end, and she said she absolutely understood that and definitely didn't want me to be unhappy. So, it seems like we'll be able to work it out.

It also turns out there were a lot of things I didn't understand about layout, sizing, print, etc. so we talked about that and were able to reach a compromise on the structuring of the stanzas per page.

Thank you all for encouraging me to fight for what I wanted, and for suggesting a video/phone call to work things out. That helped SO much and was way easier than trying to solve things over email. I'm sure there will be more things to work out down the line, but I feel  more hopeful now that the book might come out okay.

Also, in the interest of professionalism, do you think it would be wise to delete this thread (and my initial thread about them) eventually? I don't think the publishers are SCBWI members as of right now, but I guess I'd just feel bad if they ever came across this and saw all my ranting, especially since I'm going to have a professional relationship with them moving forward. Thoughts?

 :thankyou
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Contests and Challenges / Re: Haunted States of America Contest
« Last post by kathleen-lovell on July 09, 2021, 08:25 AM »
I do not believe that anyone knows what phase this contest is in or when we might know.
Hope for the best!
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