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Title: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: gina-ballesteros on April 24, 2017, 10:37 AM
Seeking clarification. I am sending my PB MS to an agent I pitched to. However, when I check the submission guidelines on the agency website. It states clearly:

 "if you are a picture book writer, you may include two (2) manuscripts.  Please do not submit any additional manuscripts unless specifically requested"

Does this mean I send 2 MS of the same book (the one I pitched) or does this mean I send 2 picture PB MS (2 different books)?
Does this also mean that I may not send just 1?

Thank you so much for your help!
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: Jayca on April 24, 2017, 11:10 AM
I think you're okay either way. The agent requested the one you pitched, and I think it would be fine to send just that one.  The submission instructions say you *may* send two PB mss, not that you *must*. But you could certainly send two, noting that you are sending the one requested by the agent and one additional ms, per their guidelines.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: lisa-katzenberger on April 24, 2017, 11:45 AM
That agent is saying you can submit two different manuscripts if you want to. I know there are just a handle of of agents who accept more than 1 MS on an initial query -- it always throws me off too! Good luck.
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: gina-ballesteros on April 24, 2017, 06:56 PM
Thank you for your reply.  It is confusing. I do remember her saying something about only representing authors of multiple works, but I was pretty nervous so I'm not sure.  I better get started on number 2 then...it's weird though b/c I didn't pitch that one.
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: onestepp on April 25, 2017, 06:46 PM
If an agent is asking for 2 PB MS, I'd still  send the agent only one.  The one that I like the best and let the agent know I have other PB MS.
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: AmyD on April 26, 2017, 06:49 AM
I like this, because I have both fiction and NF picture book manuscripts. So with this agent, you could send one of each and show your range.  If you only have one manuscript that is submission ready, then just send that one. But with pb agents in general, you should have more manuscripts ready to send. When an agent has been interested, I have almost always been asked to send more work. Good luck!
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: Debbie Vilardi on April 30, 2017, 09:14 PM
Send the one you have ready. If you rush to send another, it may not be up to snuff. Do try to have at least three projects agent ready by the time you hear back. Picture book agents almost always want to see a second or even third manuscript before they offer rep.
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: Anne Marie on May 02, 2017, 08:45 AM
Send the one you have ready. If you rush to send another, it may not be up to snuff.

I get where Debbie is coming from, totally--and I would add that if you don't have a second manuscript (and preferably more) that is up to snuff, you ought not to be querying.  A picture book author who doesn't have several quality manuscripts is not ready for prime time.

Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: Kell on May 02, 2017, 11:14 AM
I've seen some agents take a much longer cultivation process with picture book clients. When you query novels, agents generally offer on a single book. That does happen (rarely) with PBs, but some agents will want to see a number of manuscripts and maybe some revisions over a period of months before committing.
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: hannah-holt on May 25, 2017, 08:09 AM
I agree with all that's been said here. You are fine only submitting one, and you shouldn't submit anything less than 100% ready. Also, picture book agents almost always ask to see more work. It's better to wait until you have at least three polished manuscripts before you start querying/pitching to agents.
Title: Re: Seeking clarification: How many MS to submit?
Post by: jjmoo on May 25, 2017, 04:50 PM
I think you definitely need more than one MS before you start querying, even if you only query one at a time. I submitted a PB MS to an agent who liked it enough to ask for 4 - 6 other projects from me. I only had 3 polished manuscripts to offer. If an agent does like your PB, they are going to want to see more and you don't want to be in the position where you send back rough work.