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Research / Re: Looking for searchable, free database of historical photos
« Last post by JodyJS on November 23, 2021, 11:08 AM »
Thanks, all! I've used many of these successfully. I'll try the others.

I find the LOC database really difficult to navigate, unfortunately. Do you have to have the special handshake?  :grin3

Thanks again!
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Research / Re: Looking for searchable, free database of historical photos
« Last post by Brian Garrison on November 23, 2021, 08:42 AM »
Is there a more specific theme that would narrow the options? (cityscapes, people, fashion, art/museum collections, toys, etc.). I enjoy the curiosities presented in the Public Domain Review.

They have a general list of collections:
https://publicdomainreview.org/collections

And they have regular articles that highlight certain themes, such as this one about games:
https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/progress-in-play-board-games-and-the-meaning-of-history



Another place that lists a wide range of collections is the Internet Archive:
https://archive.org
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Research / Re: Looking for searchable, free database of historical photos
« Last post by dinalapomy101 on November 23, 2021, 07:24 AM »
Your local library system -- or the system in the geographical area you are looking for -- may have a database of photos.
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Research / Re: Looking for searchable, free database of historical photos
« Last post by dewsanddamps on November 22, 2021, 10:31 PM »
National Archives and Library of Congress.
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Graphic Novels / Re: Stats on GN page/panel content
« Last post by dewsanddamps on November 22, 2021, 10:29 PM »
Interesting breakdown, A.S.   :thankyou
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Graphic Novels / Stats on GN page/panel content
« Last post by A. S. Templeton on November 22, 2021, 07:52 PM »
In expanding into GN writing, I started small by adapting a 14-page screenplay short into GN script format.

In contrast to screenplays, GN stories are broken down per-page instead of per-scene. Shots and angles map into page panels, and narration and voice-overs into captions. Sound effects (SFX) are formatted as dialogue, and actual dialogue may be spoken by characters in-panel or out-panel (O.P.). GN scripts are thus akin to movie shooting scripts.

First off is what happened to the page count: a 14pp screenplay swelled into a GN of first 28pp then 48pp. Quite the expansion!

More intriguing were the ratios of panels/page compared to dialogues/page. Turns out that, for the 15-page samplings of published GNs that I analyzed, the ratios are about equal, with large variances in panel and dialogue count among pages

Sandman vol 1: 4.7±3.6 panels/page (78% variance) vs. 4.5±6.3 dialogues/page.
Sandman vol 8: 6.2±2.1 panels/page (34% variance) vs. 6.5±6.8 dialogues/page;
Note that, over the series, pages become visually more crowded and less varied in complexity, while characters become more talkative overall.

Elfquest book 1: 5.1±2.4 panels/page (48% variance) vs. 5.0±5.7 dialogues/page
Elfquest book 8: 5.1±2.4 panels/page (47% variance) vs. 8.1±4.8 dialogues/page
Note that, over the series, page visual complexity stays exactly the same, while characters become borderline prolix.

Bone Ch7: 5.2±1.7 panels/page (33% variance) vs. 6.1±6.5 dialogues/page.
Bone mostly uses a 2x3-panel format, with relatively few exceptions, hence the lower panels/page variance.
The characters like to talk a lot, too, but sometimes not at all on a given page.

I analyzed several other GNs, with much the same results.

Okay, thought I, time to plug my 28pp GN draft into the same rigorous analysis. The results were eye-opening.

Thingamajigs v 011: 6.4±1.2 panels/page (19% variance) vs. 4.4±2.9 dialogues/page.
This told me that the draft provided little panel variation page-to-page, with characters delivering similar quantities of dialogue/page.
Story aside, such lack of visual and dramatic texture = BORING.

After studying from the masters about how panels are apportioned according to drama and action, I tried again, with a net page count upped to 48.

Thingamajigs v 018: 4.2±2.3 panels/page (54% variance)  vs. 3.0±3.3 dialogues/page.
Much improved! Pages and dialogue vary much more. My characters ended up talking/singing more, albeit less on average per page, but the variance is greater and therefore better.

Also, marketability: a 48-page GN is more likely to be picked up than a 28-pager.

Anyway, studying how "the pros" write and illustrate GN is worthwhile, even if one does not use a spreadsheet and statistics to evaluate how one's own works stack up.

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Research / Re: Looking for searchable, free database of historical photos
« Last post by Debbie Vilardi on November 22, 2021, 06:59 PM »
Look for historical societies with online archives at your location. To me, that would be the best bet. Good luck.
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Research / Looking for searchable, free database of historical photos
« Last post by JodyJS on November 22, 2021, 11:45 AM »
Preferably searchable by location and/or date. Thanks!
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You could try searching through some hashtags on Instagram and Twitter. Some of these would work: #kidlitcomics, #kidlitcartoonist, #kidlitgn and #kidlitgraphicnovel.

I'll also throw my hat into the ring- I'm an illustrator, and I have several years' experience illustrating and writing a comic for a middle grade audience. You're welcome to take a look at my website, linked in my signature below!
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