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Title: Down on the farm
Post by: Tracy Vonder Brink on February 07, 2009, 06:48 PM
As I was at the library choosing picture books to read to my 6 year old, I was struck by the large number that take place on a farm, or that involve farm animals.  Since I would guess most picture book writers don't live on farms, what is it about farm life that draws us to write about it so much?  Or is it just my library,  :lol  ?


Tracy
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Carol Anne on February 07, 2009, 06:53 PM
The pull of a quieter, more serene life...one that is more in touch with nature and less connected to the wonder's of modern technology maybe?  At least, the romanticized idea of "life on a farm", not the more realistic one that involves trying to make ends meet and being mortgaged to the hilt, (Stop being so cynical, Carol Anne!)

Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: psychwriter on February 07, 2009, 07:37 PM
I think farm animals hold a lot of potential for humor.  Just the sounds: "moo", "oink", "quack".  They just sound funny.  Also, a farm has a diverse range of animals so I think that lends some appeal. 

I'm not particularly drawn to farm stories in general.  But I've read a number of farm stories that I really enjoyed.  I think some stories just lend themselves better to certain settings.   
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: ChrisLH on February 07, 2009, 07:55 PM
My opinion, as a displaced, former farm kid:

Kids are naturally attracted to all sorts of animals.  Parents/grandparents who were raised on a farm have a desire to share that with the kids who live in towns or cities today.  And what Carol Anne said so beautifully.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: buglady5 on February 07, 2009, 08:11 PM
Plus, there's always a benefit to writing stuff that can be used in schools, and farm animals are certainly in the curriculum for younger grades.  Knowing about farm animals is a part of our cultural literacy, too...they're in nursery rhymes, fables, favorite kids' songs, etc...


buglady
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: leanne on February 07, 2009, 08:12 PM
I think farm animals hold a lot of potential for humor.  Just the sounds: "moo", "oink", "quack".  They just sound funny.  Also, a farm has a diverse range of animals so I think that lends some appeal. 


I agree with psychwriter.  Also, I think we attach certain personalities to the different animals (fussy hens, not-so-bright sheep, stubborn mules, etc.) and these make for some really fun picture book characters.

 :cow
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Barbara Eveleth on February 08, 2009, 06:36 AM
There are a TON of them on the market and clearly children LOVE them. But I think in order to make it today you really have create something wildly different to be noticed.

Kids love onomatopoeia.

If I were to do one I might go with that.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Tammi on February 08, 2009, 08:20 AM
I love reading--and writing!--pbs with a barnyard setting. They have so much opportunity for humor and mayhem.

Two of my upcoming books are Chicken Dance (Sterling, Fall 2009) and Duck Means Business (S&S, Forthcoming).

Chicken Dance stars Marge and Lola, two chickens who want nothing more than to win the grand prize at the barnyard talent show--tickets to see Elvis Poultry in Concert:  The Final Doodle Doo.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/tamarak2/chickendancecover.jpg)

Duck Means Business stars a duck who goes a little haywire when the barnyard animals show up for a surprise swim in his otherwise peaceful pond.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Stephanie Ruble on February 08, 2009, 08:38 AM
I just like cows ;) and they're fun to draw!

I grew up in MN, so even though I didn't grow up on a farm, we drove past lots of cows. There are probably a lot of other people that don't live on farms but drive past land with cows and horses on a regular basis. It would make sense that they would like farm stories. They may not see all the other animals when they drive by the farms, but they can find out about them in the books. Maybe. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Sudo Nimm on February 08, 2009, 12:02 PM
Tracy,

You make an interesting observation.  I think the discrepancy between the number of farm books available, versus the number of children (or pb authors) who actual experience farm life, is not too unlike the phenomenon of vestigial organs (i.e., external ear muscles, appendix, wisdom teeth).  Please bear with me on this, it's how my brain works... :)

In other words, the beginnings of children's literature were rooted in a more rural time.  Many children grew up on or near farms, so it was natural for children's books to reflect that.  In a similar way, certain organs once played a more prominent role in the development of the human species.  The appendix may have helped digest large amounts of cellulose when our diets included more grasses. 

Despite our increased urbanization, we still cling to the ideal of farm life, as echoed by others in this thread.  Plus, farm animals are fun, and kids love animals!  So while the number of farm books available no longer accurately represents the centrality of farm life for children, they still persist.  And so does the appendix!
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Tracy Vonder Brink on February 08, 2009, 01:34 PM
Great observations, everyone!

Tammi, your two "barnyard" books sound like a lot of fun!


Tracy
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Sudipta on February 09, 2009, 02:14 PM
I think farms, zoos, and jungles are great settings to show diversity (different animals living in harmony together even though they don't look the same) without getting too PC or worrying about quotas (did I put enough minorities in? are there enough "ethnic" names? and by the way, the rant I could start about "ethnic" names -- like all names aren't ethnic!).

And pigs are cool. That's why I like the farm.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Tammi on February 09, 2009, 03:33 PM
Sudipta...nice seeing you around here again.

I'm really looking forward to reading The Hog Prince. :)

Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Ellen on February 09, 2009, 06:56 PM
I think there are so many farm books, because kids like animals. There are lots of great animals on the farm. My favorite is Farmer Duck by Martin Wadell and Helen Oxenbury.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Cassandra on February 11, 2009, 11:40 PM
Tammi, I hadn't seen your chicken dance cover until now --LOVE IT!!

I think farm books are successful in part because they are familiar, appear safe to kids, usually have vocabulary that is accessible, and while it's a setting that seems very realistic, it's a perfectly defined world for fantasy. Also, I agree with Ellen, kids like animals and farm animals make the best sounds, don't they?

And I have to say that reading Sudo's comparison between the appendix and farm settings made my night!
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: kittypye on February 12, 2009, 08:56 AM
In addition to what everyone else has said, I think "farmer" is one of those occupations that kids understand at a really young age--along with fireman, policeman, mailman and garbageman. (Sorry--fire fighter, police officem mail carrier and garbage collector)
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Tammi on February 12, 2009, 09:02 AM
Thanks, Tracy and Cassandra!
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: tfb3 on February 12, 2009, 10:21 AM
This is only slightly off topic...

When I was younger and I'd see movies with wide open, expansive fields, I had SUCH a desire to lay down in one--breathe in the smell of fresh grass, enjoy the white clouds drifting in the bright blue sky.

The first time I actually walked through a field, I saw lots of creepy crawlies and poo. Talk about a dead dream!
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Sudo Nimm on February 12, 2009, 10:57 AM
And I have to say that reading Sudo's comparison between the appendix and farm settings made my night!

Thanks, Cassandra!  I write to "make people's nights." :)
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: B.J. Lee on February 26, 2009, 10:15 AM
Yes Sudo Nimm - excellent point. Love the outfit!
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Sudo Nimm on February 26, 2009, 12:31 PM
 :thankyou
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Stephanie Ruble on February 26, 2009, 12:57 PM
This is only slightly off topic...

When I was younger and I'd see movies with wide open, expansive fields, I had SUCH a desire to lay down in one--breathe in the smell of fresh grass, enjoy the white clouds drifting in the bright blue sky.

The first time I actually walked through a field, I saw lots of creepy crawlies and poo. Talk about a dead dream!

Ha! I know what you mean. I really love cows. They look cool and they're fun to draw. In real life, they are not so fun to be around in person ... but they still look cool.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Z-cat on May 14, 2009, 06:39 AM
I think a lot of parents are drawn to farmyard books. They are usually cute, and fun and safe.
My kid liked books about pet animals, dogs, cats, fish, that he could relate to, as well as any books about machines, cars, construction, that sort of thing.

Animals are also good stand ins for adults.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: thunderingelephants on May 19, 2009, 06:19 AM
Probably the reason there are so many books in a farm setting is that both boys and girls enjoy the thought of all the activity of a farm.  I have written two stories based on farm settings and the children liked the different areas of the farm, ie the barn and stables.  It wasn't just the farmyard.  Or maybe it was the fact that one story featured a singing chicken!  There, that's my opnion which is probably a load of waffle, but I thought I'd say it anyway!

One more thing, my uncle did disuade me when I was younger on a visit to his farm.  He convinced me I had fleas and wanted to spray with crop protection.  Haven't been back since.l
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: thunderingelephants on June 13, 2009, 08:22 AM
Guys,

I have a problem which is apu a bit daft.  I'm still writing about the chicken, but need some supporting characters that could live on a poultry farm.  What other kind of birds can be eaten? Disgusting, I know, but I would still love the information.  thanks :chickendance
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Artemesia on June 13, 2009, 09:06 AM
Turkeys, geese, ducks, ostriches, cornish hens...

Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: thunderingelephants on June 13, 2009, 09:56 AM
Apparently the following are eaten, and I feel so guilty.  Pheasant, ostrich, duck, partridge, goose, emu, ostrich, and of course chicken.  Actually I should ask my flatmate.  He does work in the Chicken Inn.

Turkeys stink according to him. He won't eat it at Christmas. :chickendance

Now, I've made some chocolates so I'll finish this and go make myself look ugly.  Dinner out tonight.  It's my birthday! :star2 :hurrah
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Artemesia on June 13, 2009, 09:59 AM
Happy birthday!!  :love
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: sjkincaid on June 13, 2009, 10:20 AM
I can think of a couple reasons.

1) Kids can run around on a farm, at least that's the image. Usually a 6-7 year old can't have freedom of movement in an urban area. Not since the 50s or so.

2) Kids love animals. Disney characters usually have some sort of animal sidekick. Animals live on farms. Therefore animal adventures? Perfect for farms.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: thunderingelephants on June 13, 2009, 11:16 AM
Well,

The poultry on the farm are certainly giving the farmer a run around.  I'm near to finishing the story.
One question before I go to stuff myself (probably not appropriate wording considering the topic)...What's it like to write over 2000 words and how do you stay focussed?  Horrible admission on my part.  I've never tried it because I tend to warble, as you can see from my posts.

Now, I'm off dine and wine.  (that's WINE not WHINE!) I'll probably do that tomorrow with a hangover.  Night :stars
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Artemesia on June 13, 2009, 01:29 PM
Well, if you are sticking to picture books, it's best to stay under 1,000 words. I've written short fiction for MG/YA from anywhere between 1,200 and 3,000 words, but have yet to plunge into writing a novel. (although I do plan to) Writing for older kids is much different from picture books, I'm not sure if that's what you're asking about.

 :goat  :sheep :chicken :yum  thought I'd throw these guys in since the thread is about farm animals  :whistle
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: thunderingelephants on June 14, 2009, 04:14 AM
Partridge, turkey, goose, duck, chicken, ostrich, emu, pheasant, pigeon.  Anything else?  It's a big bird farm and I need supporting characters for my story.  I'm just bringing them in for the conclusion.  Any edible birds greatly received.  And I have chicken for dinner.  How could I?
 :drink  Had quite a few of these last night, but not as many as I thought I would.  Is that good or bad?
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: thunderingelephants on June 15, 2009, 02:40 AM
 :hurrah
Finished my story last night over another cup of coffee.  I think I brought it to a nice conclusion.  I also met a friend who gave me an expansive list of edible birds.  Not sure I'd fancy eating many of them.  Chickens were defiant too.  I'm not certain I've kept it to under 1000 words, but I hand-write all of my work and I won't find out for a while.  I'm terrible for not typing it up.
Title: Re: Down on the farm
Post by: Gatz on June 20, 2009, 04:41 PM
This is just slightly off the topic, but I hope it's of interest.

I like to watch animals, both on the farm and in the wild, because they give me ideas for stories. For example, friends of ours (we don't live on a farm but are in farm country) have a pig which they've raised as a pet. It's big now--and utterly spoiled--and loves his "mama." It's nice to see a pig with room to roam (too big to live in the house), and it has a definite pigonality that is completely different from most pigs in pens, although all pigs are interesting (to me).

Of course, there are surly geese and spoiled squirrels.

Other friends have a hired hand who has some degree of retardation, and has difficulty with conversation, but is the greatest horse groom anyone around here has ever seen. Bill really seems to be able to talk to the animals and is the human who they want around in foaling season.

We had a cat who seemed markedly more individualistic than most cats, which is saying something. Spent almost all of his days and evenings hunting in the big, thick hedgerows, and almost never wanted to come indoors. Another cat who was beloved of a big German shepherd, like the dog and cat in The Incredible Journey.

But my favorite thing is to watch animals act nonchalant. Animals--especially birds--whom you've fed and who know you, but don't know you well enough to expect to be fed by you. Ducks, swans, dogs, cows, quails, they'll come near and act like they're looking on the ground for food, studying the distant hills, looking at passing trucks, whatever--but they're really hoping you'll give them something.

As a writer, watching birds and mammals helps give my animal characters "personality."