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Title: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 02, 2011, 02:04 PM
I'm looking for ideas:

What's the dumbest thing you ever heard of a kid getting in serious trouble for in a US high school? I don't mean a case where the kid was dumb. I mean the dumbest rule, the dumbest misapplication of a rule, the dumbest invented-on-the-spot rule. Contemporary, please.

A bad but illustrative example: In a school where the dress code forbids blue jeans with no "unnatural" holes in them, a kid gets suspended because he dropped a scalpel on his pants during a biology lab.

TIA
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: AuntyBooks on October 02, 2011, 02:40 PM
How about a teacher who punishes a kid for saying "Bless you" when someone sneezes? 

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/teacher-punished-students-for-saying-bless-you-in-class.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+lanowblog+%28L.A.+Now%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: ButterflyGirl on October 02, 2011, 03:04 PM
I read about the ban against "Bless you."  Isn't that just good manners?  Please.  

My story is not really about a "rule" being broken, just an inflexible headmaster:

I went to a small private school in San Francisco.  It was my sophomore year, and the school's first year, a brand new school.  The headmaster was a very serious guy.  That winter, we had a fluke snow shower right at lunch time (It snows in San Francisco maybe once every fifty years, if that.)  It was so exciting, all the students poured out and started scooping snow off parked cars and stairways, packing snowballs and tossing them at each other.  When the bell rang, the headmaster ordered everyone in.  We BEGGED him for ten more minutes, the snow was melting fast and we wanted to enjoy every moment of this unique and amazing event.  He wouldn't budge.  Like I said, he was a very serious guy.  Anyone who refused to come in would be "campused" until Christmas break (two weeks), meaning no lunch privileges off campus, and detention for 45 minutes after school (plus an embarrassing announcement of our "crime" at assembly the next morning, but we didn't know about that.)  I tried to organize a resistance, but it ended up being only me and my best friend, alone in front of the school, dismally lobbing snowballs at each other.  I changed schools the next year.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: valeriek on October 02, 2011, 03:08 PM
There was that boy who got banned from the prom and suspended (in school, I think) for putting up a banner in front of his school, asking a girl to prom. He was banned from prom, not because of the stunt but because his suspension fell too close to the date of the prom and the school had decided that anyone who got in trouble during that week would not get to go to prom. They later relented after first standing firm in the face of public outcry.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Lwrites on October 02, 2011, 03:16 PM
I actually made a list of these when I was brainstorming for a WIP at one point. I can't find the original document, but if you google "dumb school rules" or "silly school rules" or some variation on that, you'll find some great material. (If you have the patience to sift through a lot of "my school stinks because we can't wear t-shirts with swear words on them.") A few I remember are: silly stuff about physical contact (no hugging or hand holding was common - although I doubt this would qualify for "serious trouble"), things being classified as weapons (pick anything, anything at all, and it could be a weapon), clothing being forbidden because it could be "gang colors" (no wearing all blue, for example). You could also give your protagonist a medical problem and then you're set. (No school allows students to take or carry their own medicine. It's considered a violation of drug policy. They have to get it from the nurse.)
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: literaticat on October 02, 2011, 03:19 PM
I went to Catholic school for a year and they were insanely obsessed with what type of shoes one wore. We were allowed to wear: Saddle Shoes, Penny Loafers, or Oxfords.  This was in the time when a lot of cool kids wore doc martens, which pretty much look just like oxfords... but one of my friends got in trouble for coming to school with HIGH top doc martens instead.

I personally got in trouble/detention at least once a week for stepping on the backs of my loafers, or not wearing socks, or for not having my uniform correct in some other fashion. (Location: the hottest part of Los Angeles - Dress uniform - all holidays, events, liturgy days:  TIGHTS, a wooly skirt, long-sleeved blouse and a WOOL JACKET  ughhhh - Regular uniform - all fall and winter even if it is 100 degrees: socks, wooly skirt, long-sleeved blouse (sweater optional) - "Spring" uniform - some insane polyester SKORT in one of three abominable pastel colors, with matching or white short-sleeved shirt, and sox)
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: RebeccaL-G on October 02, 2011, 03:44 PM
A few years ago there was a high school student in my town who made the news.  He was suspended for having a "weapon" in his car on campus: his own bow and arrow for the archery team.   :confused2
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: ButterflyGirl on October 02, 2011, 03:59 PM
Thanks, Literaticat, for the reminder:  My mother was kicked out of Catholic school for wearing patent leather shoes.  The nuns thought they would reflect under her skirt like a mirror.  Her expulsion came after a long list of other transgressions, like locking a nun in the library when she left the keys in the door.  But this was the same nun who would yank out a piece of hair for every math question a student missed.  My mother rarely lost any hairs, but a less able student she cared for was noticeably thin haired by the end of the year.  My mom wanted to get kicked out, wore the shoes as a final act of defiance, ended up being accepted into a merit based public school.  She was the only one of her four sisters to go on to college, eventually earned her PhD.  She was wonderful.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Cherie_C on October 02, 2011, 04:03 PM
Wasn't there a HS in California that banned their cheerleaders from wearing their cheerleading uniforms to school. If I remember right, the principle felt the skirts didn't meet the school's dress code.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: CarrieF on October 02, 2011, 04:46 PM
I just heard about a HS freshman in our town getting a warning for bringing a "weapon" to school. The object in question was a laser cat toy (using the word 'laser' loosely here -- really just a red light) that was part of her keyring.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Pons on October 02, 2011, 05:08 PM
I can hardly bear to read these. They are making my head and heart explode.

Laurel
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Pons on October 02, 2011, 05:10 PM
Oh wait, I just thought of something.

My neighbor's son got written up in elementary school for facing the wrong way on the swings. He wasn't goofing off or doing anything wrong, he just decided to face the fence as he swung instead of the field. The yard teacher went nuts.

Laurel
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Simon Haynes on October 02, 2011, 05:13 PM
And they wonder why the young often despise the elderly ...
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: ShirleyH on October 02, 2011, 05:25 PM
In HS my son got into trouble for wearing a pair of old jeans to school. They were hand me downs. I didn't see anything wrong with them. He had to go to the office and change into a pair of polyester pants from the lost and found box. He was humiliated.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 02, 2011, 05:26 PM
Wow. A lot of answers so quickly. What does that say about us, I wonder?

I did Google this before posting, but turned up nothing. My mistake: I Googled "Dumb High School Rules" and variations on "dumb" when the problem was the word "high." I'm usually pretty good at Googling.

Good stuff, though. Thanks.

Yeah, even I (an atheist) was appalled at the "God bless you" thing. Even if you did want policy to cover that phrase (doubtful) it would apply only to school employees. Kids can express all the religious sentiment they want.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 02, 2011, 05:34 PM
Simon:

I think part of it is that the young rarely see older folks outside of their official roles: teacher, lunch lady, cop, even parent. And I will add from my own experience (spouse of a high school teacher) that too many of the wrong people go into education, and way too often it's the wrongest who get bucked into administration. ("Hey! You're a stupid jerk? So are we. How'd you like it if we paid you to get an administrative degree? Then you can really join the club.") Fortunately, enough of the right people also go that there's at least a semblance of balance.

Stephanie: Wow. I might be able to use that. It really fits my characters. Imagine handing another kid something like Smack or Perks of Being a Wallflower? Haw haw!
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Enigmainthemist on October 02, 2011, 11:45 PM
When I was in school the teachers would get upset with me because I was not smart like my older brother. It made me hate school. I still love to learn.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Joni on October 02, 2011, 11:51 PM
I have a niece who is quite tall and thin, but short-waisted (all her height's in her legs, and her arms are similarly long-boned). She once got sent home from school for violating a dress code that required the hems of skirts and shorts to be longer than the girl's fingertips when her arms were at her sides. For many people that equates to mid-to-upper thigh, but she's proportioned just oddly enough that it requires a hem almost to her knees. They don't even MAKE shorts that long for teen girls. What she had on was not remotely short... just shorter than her long ape-girl arms and fingers. :)
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: thunderingelephants on October 03, 2011, 05:58 AM
My aunt was called to her daughter's principles office at one point because "your daughter's uniform to the school's conformative standards".  Why?  Because the skirt had one extra crease in what should have been a two pleated skirt.  I believe that was plain stupid.

We also had to change our uniform to a different colour at sixteen, regardless of how long you intended to stay in school

OT:  I also changed one of my stories after I read this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-379114/Baa-baa-rainbow-sheep.html
Although I do think this has taken PC a little too far.  Or am I the only one?

Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: ecb on October 03, 2011, 03:33 PM
My neighbor's son got written up in elementary school for facing the wrong way on the swings. He wasn't goofing off or doing anything wrong, he just decided to face the fence as he swung instead of the field. The yard teacher went nuts.

I can relate to that. In the elementary school where I had first grade, there was a rule that you couldn't fall down at recess! Guess which clumsy first grader spend a lot of recess inside with her head on her desk? (And because I was a good girl, a rule-following kid, I really DID sit alone inside with my head on my desk! Sigh.) The cruel teacher who enforced that rule, btw? Mrs. Rogers. This was in 1979, and I remember being totally baffled that Mr. Rogers could possibly be married to somebody so mean. :dr
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: ChristinefromCorona on October 03, 2011, 04:22 PM
Things I've read about:

High school boys got in trouble for wearing T-shirts with the American flag on them on Cinco de Mayo (disrespectful to Mexican-American students).

Elementary boy got in trouble for hugging a classmate (sexual harrassment).

Jr. high kids getting in trouble for sharing Chapstick, aspirin, Tylenol, etc. 

Elementary boy brought little plastic toy soldiers as part of a war history project.  Got in trouble because the figures had guns.

Oh, and I was working as a teacher's aide when a school bus driver went ballistic because I took a picture of the empty bus, with no students around.  She said she could've reported me. 



Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: JennaWren on October 03, 2011, 04:26 PM
This was in 1979, and I remember being totally baffled that Mr. Rogers could possibly be married to somebody so mean. :dr

 :lmao  Oh, gosh, I almost just peed myself....
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Z-cat on October 03, 2011, 04:58 PM
My brother had a very strict baseball coach in high school. He was benched for a couple of games because the coach saw him at my graduation ceremony wearing earrings. I didn't really get what the infraction was there. Boys were allowed to wear piercings around the rest of the school. He also got in trouble for wearing "gang colors" once. It was a blue shirt. Yes, my straight-A-honor-roll-cello-playing-graduating-early brother was in a gang. Thank goodness he wore that blue polo shirt (really!) or we never would have known.

Gangs were used as an excuse to arbitrarily change the dress code all the time. I was in high school in the 90s, the land of flannel shirts and workboots and pajamas as clothes. We used to wear guys boxers to school as shorts,(uh, with the flys sewn shut. Do not ask me why, I was 16 and we were "rebellious" or something.) I don't remember ever getting in trouble for that. But the guys were forever getting in trouble for some supposedly gang related ensemble.

By the time my neice got to school, it was all about clothes that are too revealing. And I agree with that one, but she got in trouble for wearing a long sleeved baby doll cut shirt that came down past her rear end because the collar was an inch lower than her collar bone.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: dwrites on October 03, 2011, 05:16 PM
At my daughter's school one year the dress code was modified to forbid the color red and all derivatives of red, because red was a gang color. This included the color pink. So my daughter started the Pink Fairy Gang.  This rule didn't last long because it was actually singling out girls. Plus it was dumb.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: TracyH on October 03, 2011, 05:57 PM
At the middle school here in town, a kid brought a bb gun to school and shot another girl in the leg. The girl with the bb gun was suspended and SO WAS THE GIRL WHO GOT SHOT. Because she didn't tell (because she was afraid).
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Pons on October 03, 2011, 08:38 PM
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there was a rule that you couldn't fall down at recess!

This boggles the mind.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Wonky on October 04, 2011, 01:10 AM
I recently heard of a kid (who was obsessed with WW II) get into trouble because he drew a picture of soldiers that included (gasp) guns.

The reason had something to do with the teacher though he was getting out his aggression against other kids in the class by drawing violent pictures.

Personally (back in the late 80's early 90's) some things I personally remember getting into trouble for:

Once I got a detention for forgetting to bring a pencil to class.

I got in troube in Jr High for having a D&D book (a choose-your-own-adventure type spinoff) in class during the silly moral panic about that game. Funny thing was, I'd gotten the book at the school's RIF fair. I was told not to bring it to school ever again.

If I think of any others I will come back and update this thread.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: thunderingelephants on October 04, 2011, 01:31 AM
This boggles the mind.
I hope there weren't any epileptics in the school. Sometimes you just can't control that.  Plus there are quite a few implications and a student could be completely innocent.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 04, 2011, 04:59 AM
In the elementary school where I had first grade, there was a rule that you couldn't fall down at recess!
Holy cow. Was this a public school?
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Rachel on October 04, 2011, 05:38 AM
Not high school, but I remember a kindergartener getting suspended from a local elementary school because he dressed as a firefighter for Halloween. His costume came with a plastic ax, which violated the school's weapon policy.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 04, 2011, 05:42 AM
I almost remembered the Cinco de Mayo thing. Right there on the tip of my tongue. Thanks for the reminder.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: thunderingelephants on October 04, 2011, 08:16 AM
OT: (sorry if this inappropriate)  I was watching a discussion forum on television this morning where they talking about rules and regulations in schools.  One example was given where a teacher of fifteen year old children was stabbed by a student.  The judge deemed that "it is to be expected and part of the career of a teacher".

I thought that ruling was ridiculous.  Surely the role of a teacher is to educate and set a role-model, not to accept that is part of their career that should be "expected"?
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: DianaM on October 04, 2011, 08:36 AM
When I was in high school, I got in trouble for writing and drawing on my sneakers.

Hypothetically...

How about, for having shoes untied? Aglet missing?

Or for saying "bomb"?

Or for wearing a hat backwards?

Or, remember when there was something on the news about how they outlawed those snappy, rubber bracelets because they were too distracting?
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Pons on October 04, 2011, 09:35 AM
A have a friend whose oldest son is deathly allergic to bee stings. He carries an epie pen with him at all times. His elementary and middle schools made an exception for him to do this. (Yea for them!) The high school, on the other hand, absolutely refused to let any student have any kind of medication in his possession at any time. Absolutely Zero Tolerance. (Don't even get me started on that.) This obviously put his life at risk. His parents tried everything, but the bottom line was that all medication had to be kept under lock and key in the office. The school gave them the assurance that it wouldn't take any longer than 20 minutes for them to get the pen to their son if he needed it. They said that their son would be dead in 5 minutes after a bee sting, and the admins just told them that's the rule and there was nothing they could do about it.

I simply do not understand such incredible obtuseness and callous disregard for human life.

My friends finally acted like they had relented and left a pen with the office staff, but they also sent one to school with their son who kept it secret.

Laurel  :taz:
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 04, 2011, 09:55 AM
Pons, that's appalling. I'm no expert, but I should think a letter to the school board or even the district's legal counsel would clear that up fast.

Hard to believe a thing so common would throw them so much. Could be most kids with such an issue have already learned to keep quiet about their epi pens. I know of kids with asthma inhalers who never tell any administrators about them at all.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Car on October 04, 2011, 10:04 AM
I got a call from the vice-principal one day because my child said freakin' in front of a teacher. Not the real F word - just freakin' . I had to bite my tongue from saying, "What's the freakin' problem? Relax!" But I assured him I'd handle it and then had a laugh.

And to follow up on Laurel's post, I have secretly allowed my son to carry his inhaler rather than lock it up in the office. I figure if he ever needed it, being in violation of school policy was the least of our problems.  
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 04, 2011, 10:09 AM
"Freakin'" ? What age was this? I can see some concern if the kid was 9 . . . maybe. I suppose they have a similar policy regarding "shoot," "gosh darn," and "jeepers"? <grin>
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Michelle DP on October 04, 2011, 11:07 AM
A kid at one of the local schools constructed a life size replica of a medieval suit of armor to go with his report on the middle ages. He got in trouble because the administration decided his cardboard-and-foil sword violated the no weapons law.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Pons on October 04, 2011, 02:11 PM
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I figure if he ever needed it, being in violation of school policy was the least of our problems. 

Exactly.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Pons on October 04, 2011, 02:12 PM
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I got a call from the vice-principal one day because my child said freakin' in front of a teacher.

I've never really known where freakin' fits on the bad word scale. I just thought it was like darn or heck. Is it really considered taboo?
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Fiona L on October 04, 2011, 02:42 PM
In my school when we wore uniforms there's policy about how short a skirt can be etc. I think people even their skirts measured. (Not uncommon?)

Anyway, there was never anything specific about the length of socks. But some kids rocked up with those ankle socks? The really short ones?
We had a school shop on our property, the kids were forced to buy new socks or be sent home.

I can't of anything too devious right now.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 04, 2011, 03:34 PM
I've never really known where freakin' fits on the bad word scale. I just thought it was like darn or heck. Is it really considered taboo?
I suspect there's a timescale for these things. We take words like jeepers for granted because they're so old. freakin' probably seems closer to the "original" because it seems newer. OTOH, I can document its use in dialogue in a VERY popular novel in 1971 (The Exorcist) so it's not really that new. OTOOH it seems to me that it's popularity jumped a lot in the last 20+ years, so maybe there's something to that.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Michelle DP on October 04, 2011, 03:53 PM
I've thought of another one. Both the middle school and high school require students to have their ID on them at all times. The high school will not allow a student to go to class without the ID, but they won't send the kid home either. They keep the child under guard in detention until a parent shows up with an ID.  I don't know if that qualifies as dumb, but the dumb things that could happen to a character's ID card are endless.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Liz Straw on October 05, 2011, 03:01 PM
Wasn't there a HS in California that banned their cheerleaders from wearing their cheerleading uniforms to school. If I remember right, the principle felt the skirts didn't meet the school's dress code.

Yep, that has happened in a couple of places.  The cheerleaders have had to wear sweatpants over their uniforms in school but could cheer in the same uniform.  - If it is too short to wear to school, isn't it too short to cheer in?
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Liz Straw on October 05, 2011, 03:18 PM
I recently read where a student had to either turn his shirt inside out or put on another shirt because he was wearing a Super Mario Brothers' Shirt that stated something like "I love mushrooms."  The shirt showed one of the Mario Brothers hugging a mushroom.

The reasoning of the principal, it was drug related.  The poor sixth grader had never even heard of smoking mushrooms before, he just loved the game and loved the shirt.  However he and his parents were told that no student could wear a shirt related to the subject of drugs, alcohol, violence, etc as stated in the student handbook. 

Now I admit I have heard of smoking mushrooms, after all I am not that innocent.  But I couldn't help but shake my head at the poor kid that wore the shirt.  He was given an education, far bigger than his DARE education (and it may have even been a DARE officer that pointed out the t-shirt, it has been  a couple of days since I read the story) but I am not sure they talk about smoking 'rooms. 

I wonder if they go after girls wearing t-shirts with fairies sitting on mushrooms?

Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: jeffman on October 05, 2011, 04:06 PM
Really?  You SMOKE them?  I never knew that. 
News to me too.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: MysteryRobin on October 05, 2011, 05:21 PM
I remember a story not too long ago where kids were led away in handcuffs for putting gum on their desk.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: thunderingelephants on October 06, 2011, 01:48 AM
I remember a story not too long ago where kids were led away in handcuffs for putting gum on their desk.
I suppose the thought could be that they couldn't afford a fine and needed to "be taught a lesson".  Littering is an offence after all and some places take it more seriously than others
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: AuntyBooks on October 06, 2011, 07:23 AM
But teacher do have to contend with a lot, and sometimes I'm sure they don't know what to do.  There was a dress code in my elementary school -- girls were supposed to wear dresses. I didn't because I didn't have one. I wore my older brother's hand me down jeans. One pair.  When I was sent to the office, I told them that and they never said another word. This is probably because the year before, someone had given me a dress. A lavender Easter type dress with a cape. I thought it was a super hero outfit and wore it every day. (Yes, the Lavender Easter Avenger was on the job, fighting playground crime!) Okay, not everyday. I occasionally came to school in my pajamas. (I got myself ready in the mornings, and I just forgot to get dressed) I also had a huge, one-eyed tom cat I'd met in an alley somewhere and we adored each other. He'd follow me to school some days and sit outside the window yowling until the teacher told me to take him home. When I did, I wouldn't come back. He gave me ringworm on my chin. After that, we looked like twins. And everyone was afraid to touch us. (Eww!)  :wub

I'm sure that when teachers saw my name on their class list the shuddered. Possibly wept.

We should start another thread to talk about the strangest things teachers have had to put up with.... :laugh

 :yup eab
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Michelle DP on October 06, 2011, 02:36 PM
My husband's football team got suspended for wearing dresses to school to protest the dress code. His school had no air conditioning, but the dress code still required boys to wear long pants when it was hot, while the girls got to wear short dresses.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Liz Straw on October 07, 2011, 03:28 PM
Really?  You SMOKE them?  I never knew that. 

Mushrooms apparently contain Psilocybin.  I do not understand what mushrooms - although some claim there are "magic mushrooms" that will give you trips like LSD.  From what I could find out on the net, it was more than confusing.  Apparently magic mushrooms will not give you a trip, but certain other mushrooms will - which ones they do not say (hmmm, I wonder why?).  Mostly the heat applied to mushrooms will negate the Psilocybin and thus render it useless.  So you will not get high eating mushroom that you eat, etc. as long as they are not poisonous.

Sounds way too complicated for most middle schoolers and high schoolers to understand unless someone introduces it to them.  Not saying that there aren't parents that will do that.

And yes I have heard of this, but would not have thought a Super Mario Brothers' Shirt had anything to do with smoking mushrooms.  I think this is a small counter culture. 
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Post by: AuntyBooks on October 07, 2011, 04:51 PM
Mushrooms apparently contain Psilocybin.  I do not understand what mushrooms - although some claim there are "magic mushrooms" that will give you trips like LSD.  From what I could find out on the net, it was more than confusing.  Apparently magic mushrooms will not give you a trip, but certain other mushrooms will - which ones they do not say (hmmm, I wonder why?).  Mostly the heat applied to mushrooms will negate the Psilocybin and thus render it useless.  So you will not get high eating mushroom that you eat, etc. as long as they are not poisonous.

Sounds way too complicated for most middle schoolers and high schoolers to understand unless someone introduces it to them.  Not saying that there aren't parents that will do that.

And yes I have heard of this, but would not have thought a Super Mario Brothers' Shirt had anything to do with smoking mushrooms.  I think this is a small counter culture. 

ummm...you don't smoke magic mushrooms. But I won't get into *how* you prepare them. They are bad stuff.

eab
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: thunderingelephants on October 08, 2011, 05:53 AM
My husband's football team got suspended for wearing dresses to school to protest the dress code. His school had no air conditioning, but the dress code still required boys to wear long pants when it was hot, while the girls got to wear short dresses.
A bit of difference then to the old tradition of catholicism that boys couldn't wear long trousers until their confirmation day, then?
Did anyone have dress code for shoes in school?  We could only wear brownor black and heaven help you if you didn't wear flats!
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: ChristinefromCorona on October 08, 2011, 12:13 PM
I think the dress code was one of the biggest school nitpicks back then.  Now there's paranoia about lawsuits and legal action, so they go overboard with the drug and weapon policies (like making a big deal out of breath mints and fingernail clippers).  They've also gotten stricter about food-sharing, because so many kids have allergies these days.  And parents have been making a lot of fuss about books they deem questionable (even the dictionary).
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Pons on October 08, 2011, 04:14 PM
How can the dictionary be objectionable? Are the parents afraid the kids are going to look up questionable words?  That is a time honored tradition among kids.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: ChristinefromCorona on October 08, 2011, 09:54 PM
There was some CA school recently where parents wanted to replace the current classroom dictionary with some other one.  They claimed it had "dirty" words and slang phrases in it, and kids would be looking them up.   :run4hills 
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Liz Straw on October 09, 2011, 03:24 PM
There was some CA school recently where parents wanted to replace the current classroom dictionary with some other one.  They claimed it had "dirty" words and slang phrases in it, and kids would be looking them up.   :run4hills 

How else were we supposed to learn the correct way to use these words?  :dr
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Wonky on October 09, 2011, 05:02 PM
Really?  You SMOKE them?  I never knew that. 

Sounds to me like this teacher had no idea what he was talking about.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Liz Straw on October 12, 2011, 06:58 PM
They just had a news short where they used a sharpie on a boys head to "correct" a haircut.  One of those where a wide part was shaved into a black student's hair.  Apparently the problem is that this could be a sign of gang affiliation, blah, blah, blah.  They never called the parents to notify them of the haircut infraction. 
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: angela on October 12, 2011, 09:39 PM
It's been years since I saw the video but I remember a ktgn boy getting taken out of school by police in handcuffs because he threw a tempertantrum.

I learned about this when one of the students I worked with (second grader) was freaked out after seeing it. He told me, "I have to do what the teachers tell me or the police will come." He told me he saw it on the computer. I googled it that night and found it. This was back in 2006 or so.

I did find this article from 2008 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/01/25/2008-01-25_5yearold_boy_handcuffed_in_school_taken_.html
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: MaryWitzl on October 13, 2011, 01:25 AM
I had a Catholic school friend who was threatened with suspension because of wearing patent leather shoes (for just the reasons mentioned by others here), but I had no idea this was such a common presumption. A girl I knew who grew up in Alaska once got in trouble for wearing trousers to her high school; the dress code specified that girls had to wear skirts, whatever the weather. On the day she was sent home in her trousers, it was way below zero with a terrific wind chill factor.  She went back to school in her skirt -- and four pairs of tights.

The high school I went to had its share of clueless teachers, stupid rules, and daft administrators, but after hearing my friends' stories and reading all these comments, I think I got off easy.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: thunderingelephants on October 13, 2011, 06:36 AM
You would never have been allowed to wear trousers in any of the catholic schools either here or in England. That's still prevolent in England but not so much here.  Coats had to be either black or brown and the shoes the same.
Also, for the last two years of school, the uniform colour changed completely so for just two years, or in some cases, one year (like me), you had to waste money on another uniform.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: Liz Straw on October 13, 2011, 03:15 PM
When I was in High School there was a teacher that loved to hang out in the hall looking for dress code infractions.  Skirts had to be two inches or longer above the knee - if she or someone else thought they were shorter you had to kneel on the ground and they were measured.  We weren't allowed to were pants (trousers for those in the UK) no matter what the tempeture was or how much snow was on the ground and we wore knee socks most of the time.

This teacher also had a thing for patent leather shoes.  The thing is even in the late sixties, patent leather shoes were not really "true" patent leather shoes; they did not reflect enough to see up a dress.  Real patent leather shoes from earlier years and perhaps dance shoes might have once reflected enough to see up a dress.  I never saw shoes that that had such reflective quality.
Title: Re: What's the dumbest thing . . .
Post by: thunderingelephants on October 14, 2011, 02:28 AM
I'd be interested to know what you think of the rule I had to work under in a childcare centre: when children wanted to be involved in an activity, they each to had to ask the group join.  It was the same for toys which made things as a childcare worker hard.  If a child refused to share the toys, there was time limits for all toys.
It got to the stage that even childcare workers had to ask permission to speak to the children and that made things ridiculously strained.