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Title: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on December 03, 2005, 06:00 AM
Anyone read this?  I just got it.  I'm not particularly into vampire books, but I really enjoyed this.   The pacing was quick, the characterization was strong, and the voice was great.  The post-climax ending could have been a bit shorter, I think, but I hear there are a couple sequels in the works, so maybe it was meant as a bridge to the next book.  What did you all think of it?

Oh yeah, I might add that this is the first book Meyer has ever written.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Inspired on December 03, 2005, 08:18 AM
Wow!  Someone else spells their first name exactly like I do?  Cool! 

Stephenie (not Meyer)
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on December 03, 2005, 01:34 PM
Don't you wish your name spelling wasn't the only thing you had in common?  Little, Brown paid the most they ever have to a first-time author for Twilight plus two sequels (at least $500,000, I read).   I've been analyzing this book to see why it's so hot.  The vampires are definitely a good sell.  Love with Obstacles is also a great theme.  The pace is quick, even though it's 500 pages.  And, there are two more books, if you haven't gotten enough of Bella and Edward and their challenges after the first one. And since Meyer can write a lot in a short amount of time (I'd love to know the secret!), things can only get better for her from here.   Mostly, though, she brought alive some characters that the reader can't help caring about.  I really enjoyed this book!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: GreenFrog on December 04, 2005, 10:05 AM
Ah - HA! An editor at the SCBWI conference the August before this one mentioned this book, but i don't think gave a title. I just knew it was a first book about vampires that got a massive advance. So, i'd been perusing every knew vampire book to see if it was "the one". And just when i pretty much had given up, here it is. Now i'll have to read it.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Audiate on December 14, 2005, 08:03 AM
Ok, finally got the book and am halfway through, so I can join in now.

You both thought it was fast-paced? I'm really surprised. I found the first third to be SLOWWWWWW. Like, really slow. A lot of telling about the mc's feelings, but I wasn't really feeling her feelings, if that makes sense.
It seems to pick up about halfway through. Still, I'm surprised by the huge buzz around this book. I mean, it's okay, but nothing I'd recommend to anyone; nothing that really lifts it out of the ordinary, for me.  ??? Ah well!

Anyone else read it recently?
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Pam on December 14, 2005, 10:06 AM
I loved it soooo much, I emailed Stephenie about it!!! She said it was optioned by Paramount and MTV video. It would make an AWESOME movie. And her agent was Jodie Reamer, for those who want to know...

The writing was flawless and should win awards. I fell in love with the vampire. (Me, who HATES macabre!)
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: JacksonPearce on December 14, 2005, 10:45 AM
I've been wanting to read this because (hangs head in shame) the cover is pretty!

I've actually been wanting to read some YA literary fiction, because I have an idea for a novel in the genre and am mostly familiar with classics and YA fantasy. Guess I'm not straying too far though if it involves a vampire!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on December 14, 2005, 12:06 PM
Audiate, some books are like that for me, too.  Everyone loves them, and they just fall flat to me.  The beginning is of course slower than the ending, but I felt like it was time well invested in the characterization.  I wasn't reading to to find anything new in the vampire genre, since I'm not into horror (as opposed to fantasy, which I do like), but as a story, it worked very well for me.  I'm really looking forward to how she resolves Edward and Bella's little problem, although the next book doesn't come out for another year.  Even though I'm not trying to write anything like this, this was one of those books I wished I had written.  I really, really liked it.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Robin on December 14, 2005, 12:56 PM
Ooh!  I just finished this book today and I think I'm love with Edward too!  (Sigh)  I took the book to work last night and had to stay up this morning and finish it.

My coworkers:  Robin, don't you ever read grownup books?
Me: Umm, no. 

I went to the author's website, too.  I wish I could write as prolifically as she does.  My YA rough draft is only 42k words right now.

Robin :typing:
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Audiate on December 14, 2005, 01:09 PM
I think what fell the most flat for me is that the author kept telling me (the reader) about the chemistry the MC feels from/to Edward, but this didn't ring true for me until well into the book. I didn't really FEEL the mc's feelings until I was already rather tired of HEARING ABOUT her feelings.
Anyway, just my two cents.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on December 14, 2005, 02:13 PM
My coworkers:  Robin, don't you ever read grownup books?
Me: Umm, no. 

LOLOL.  I NEVER read grownup books.  Kids' books are so much better written.  Why should I waste my time on an inferior product?

The chemistry in Twilight worked for me, definitely.  But not every writing style hits everyone the same way.  So many people say that the sixth Harry Potter book is their favorite, but I had the same experience with that one--I felt like Rowling was telling me things that I never really saw.  And I LOVE Harry Potter, so it was sad.  And if the chemistry didn't work for you in Twilight, then the rest of the story won't work, either.

Robin, 130K in 3 months is fast, but think about it: if you write 1000 words a day and know just where you're going, you'll get there in a short amount of time, too.  I really liked the outtakes section of Stephenie's website.  I love reading scenes that were cut from novels; it's like a window into the novel writing process that I don't see often (except for my own, which doesn't count, since I don't know what I'm doing.)  The book is so much better without those scenes, in my opinion, although I liked reading them.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: almarrone on December 14, 2005, 03:16 PM
What's her website address? 
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on December 14, 2005, 03:53 PM
www.stepheniemeyer.com  (The spelling is funny)
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: almarrone on December 14, 2005, 04:51 PM
Thanks--I googled her but it didn't come up.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on December 14, 2005, 04:53 PM
Yes, her name is spelled funny, so if you try to spell it "right," you won't find anything on her.  Almarrone, didn't you just have a vampire novel accepted?  Must be the season!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: almarrone on December 14, 2005, 05:49 PM
I put an "A" in her name!  Yup, I've got a vampire story coming out in 2008 but it isn't a traditional vamp story--it's more of a YA that happens to have a vampire in it if that makes any sense. 
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Robin on December 14, 2005, 06:21 PM
2008, Amanda?! ??? (Sigh.) I was hoping I'd get to read yours while waiting for her sequels.

And I haven't read any vampire books since Interview with a Vampire in 11th grade.

Robin :typing:
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: almarrone on December 14, 2005, 06:35 PM
2008, Amanda?! ??? (Sigh.) I was hoping I'd get to read yours while waiting for her sequels.


Tell me about it!  Sigh.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: HB on January 16, 2006, 10:46 AM
I read this one on the weekend. Delicious! The chemistry worked for me. Fascinating take on vampires.

As I was reading the book, I was expecting certain intriguing questions to be answered. They weren’t answered. I also expected a specific thing to happen at the end. It didn’t happen. I reached the last page and went “Nooooo! There’s going to be a sequel!”

On one hand, I get to read another wonderful 1000 pages of these characters. (Was it really a 500 page book? It didn’t seem that long.) On the other hand, I have to wait for the answers. Harumph!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Athena529 on March 13, 2006, 05:33 AM
I finished reading this book last night. I really liked it, although I sometimes found myself annoyed at the Bella/Edward relationship. He fell in love with her so quickly based on her smell? I needed something more. But I thought the pacing was good and the characters and plot were interesting (although I would have liked a little more development of James earlier on- there was a threat with no warning and it seemed too sudden). I began reading the book on Saturday and couldn't put it down; I, too, was surprised that it did not feel like 498 pages!

I'm not surprised about the advance or the planned sequels. An adult vampire book, The Historian, earned its first-time author a record advance based on just a few chapters! Vampire books have always been hot.

Did you notice that for a book with so much sensuality, there was no cussing?
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on April 19, 2006, 05:10 PM
I have to say, though, that the series has only started. Meyer has to leave room for her MC to grow. I'm personally hoping Bella gets a healthier view on life, but darn it, I want her to get to be with Edward, too!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Athena529 on April 20, 2006, 01:00 PM
I agree, olmue. I think (hope) the character will grow. Perhaps in the next book, Bella will save Edward instead of it being the other way around!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: kellyr on April 21, 2006, 09:28 AM
My 13-year old devoured this one.  She stayed up very late, and reached for it to continue before breakfast the next day.  And then was sad when the book was done because she loved it so much.  And she particularly liked the ambiguity of the ending.  At least, I'm assuming there was ambiguity, based on what she said.  I have to go find it from where she's hidden it to read it myself.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: C.K. on April 21, 2006, 01:52 PM
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At least, I'm assuming there was ambiguity, based on what she said.  I have to go find it from where she's hidden it to read it myself.

Stephenie Meyer discusses this ambiguity on her webpage. It seems there was some editorial influence there.

I talked about liking this book in another thread so I won't go into it again except to say that people don't want to just read/write about role models all the time. If characters always reacted logically to situations there wouldn't be much drama.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: whbeck on May 04, 2006, 10:15 AM
Stephenie Meyer has the first chapter rewritten from Edward's point of view posted on her Web site now. http://http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/otherprojects_midnightsun.html

(Not sure if I did the link thingy right...)

Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: C.K. on May 04, 2006, 06:15 PM
Cool. I'll check that out.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: dave r on May 08, 2006, 08:25 AM
My daughter wore out the advanced reading copy of Twilight and has read and re-read her own hardcover copy until the binding has loosened. It's no wonder I became the "greatest dad in the whole world" when I brought home the ARC of NEW MOON this past week.  In four days, she's read the book three times and keeps saying, "I want more."

Needlesss to say, I think Stephanie Meyer's next book will be a smash hit too.

keep writing and reading,
dave r
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Jennifer Rush on May 08, 2006, 08:32 AM
Stephenie Meyer has the first chapter rewritten from Edward's point of view posted on her Web site now. http://http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/otherprojects_midnightsun.html

Awww, man, I can't read it. For some reason I get "an internal error". Maybe I'll have to go to the library. I heard it's really really good and it's driving me nuts not reading it!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on May 08, 2006, 06:23 PM
Check to make sure you have the latest version of Adobe Acrobat on your computer. I got a similar error until I updated my program.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Jennifer Rush on May 08, 2006, 08:26 PM
Check to make sure you have the latest version of Adobe Acrobat on your computer. I got a similar error until I updated my program.

Oh geez, why didn't I think of that?  :cuccoan:

It worked and I was able to read it. It was awesome and now I'm really crazy about wanting to read more. Can't wait for New Moon!

Thanks!
Jen
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: missy t on May 12, 2006, 06:54 AM
i LOVED the edward and bella relationship so much i was actually avoiding reading because i didn't think they would wind up together.  i thought edward would do what he thought was best for bella and leave and i didn't want to get to that part.  if i'd known there were sequels planned, that wouldn't have been a problem  ;D  the only criticism i thought an editor or agent would have (although it wasn't a problem for me) was there seemed to be way too much telling and not enough showing, especially in regard to bella's feelings.  this is why i'm surprised that a previously unpublished writer managed to get this published (and with a great advance, too!).  it seems like the only people who can get away with so much telling, not showing are previously published authors with name recognition.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Jen on May 14, 2006, 11:07 PM
I loved this book, in part because it's really different from a lot of the YA vampire books out there.  The truth is, in the wake of Buffy, there's a surplus of "girl kicks vampire butt" type books out there, and very few, if any, of them actually do it as well as Buffy did.  I enjoy books with quippy, snarky main characters who don't fall for the vampire's elusive charm and instead kick his butt as much as the next girl, but there comes a point in time when SOMETHING DIFFERENT becomes very attractive.  The more I think about it, the more I think that Twilight might have felt different BECAUSE Bella was much weaker in many ways than what I've come to expect from heroines in this kind of book.  I always thought that something about the book felt kind of gothic, and it always struck me as a throwback of sorts, and that's part of what appealed to me.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Jaclyn Dolamore on May 15, 2006, 07:08 AM
I didn't really want Bella to kick butt, either, for the reason you mentioned, Jen.  I'm not a kick-butt girl myself, in the Buffy sense, and I don't identify with that very much anyway.  But it bothered me that Bella didn't really stand up for herself in any way--even inwardly.  Or she didn't display any of her own strengths--for instance, perhaps an emotional strength.  One of my favorite male characters is a very strong personality and very charismatic, too, and I have written a few stories where the women in his life let him take most of the control in the relationship--but they always have some strength of their own, even if they are afraid to show it to him, or even if it's a gentle strength.  Only at the VERY end, when Bella says she'd like to save Edward sometimes too, do we see anything like this.  Besides that, Bella's primary characteristic is her klutziness; not, say, her compassion, or being an artist, or SOMETHING positive.  Undoubtedly, there are girls like Bella out there, but it's hard for me to enjoy a story about one. 
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: missy t on May 15, 2006, 07:59 AM
as a klutz and a shy, not-exactly-strong-in-any-way girl myself, it was really nice for me to see a klutzy girl get the hot guy (albeit a vampire guy).  in other books i've read where the klutz, non-cheerleader type wound up with the hot guy, the girl always seemed to have a very dominant, strong personality and wasn't really a wallflower type (like me  :) ). 
an earlier post mentioned that the book doesn't send a good message because bella falls for a dangerous guy (a vampire).  although edward can be dangerous, he was essentially a good guy and didn't want to harm bella (and put her safety ahead of his own desires). a lot of "typical" teenage boys are controlled by hormones and although i'm certainly not saying the majority of them are dangerous (date rapists, etc) , i think they are more controlled by their hormones and doing what feels good to them than trying to do what would be best for the girl they're dating. 
now, i'm off to stephenie meyer's web site to see if the  "i love edward cullen" t-shirts are on sale yet  ;D
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on May 15, 2006, 10:40 AM
I don't think it was a conscious thing, forgetting to give Bella a strength and a clear victory of her own at the end. (Well, she does have an impenetrable mind, but I never got a clear sense of the why of that--maybe in another book.) I know that when I started writing my now-in-revision-stage first novel, my male lead kept doing interesting things, and suddenly he had this whole backstory, and things to overcome--whereas my actual MC (first person girl) was just kind of living through a series of odd events, recording what she saw happening to the guy. Basically, he started taking over, and I had to really scale back, and consciously assign a clear (and dominant) character arc for my MC. (Now, unfortunately, readers are telling me that the guy needs to overcome more at the end--ah, well, back to the drawing board.) I wonder if that's the kind of thing going on here. I really liked Edward's character arc--the idea that we always have a choice, no matter what our circumstances (ie, even if you're a vampire). The whole time he's fighting to be morally human, and finally proves himself when he's able to save Bella's life and not give in to snackies. That was very satisfying to me.

But wait, you say! Bella is the main character here! Right. Maybe I'm totally misreading things, but I felt like Meyer *wanted* us to feel Bella was making bad decisions. Her desire to just have someone bite her was pretty self-destructive, and it wasn't very considerate of others, either (what if she ate her family and friends?). She's got some growing to do. I hope she gets her head together over the series. (And at the same time, I want a happy ending...)
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Jaclyn Dolamore on May 15, 2006, 02:04 PM
Well, that is true, you bring up a good point--this is a series, and I don't know what the author has planned.  Bella might change over books (we would hope!) and become stronger in some ways.  I will have to read the next one and see--there was enough to interest me that I'll have to read the sequel.  BTW, I don't have a problem with Bella being klutzy, but the degree of klutziness described seemed extreme--she needed Edward to hold her hand while hiking or something, didn't she?  I know a super-klutzy girl and she isn't THAT klutzy.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Athena529 on May 15, 2006, 03:21 PM
In a New York Times book review from February 12, 2006, Elizabeth Spires had this observation about Twilight:

“The plot may sound rather comic and camp, but Meyer chooses to play it straight and serious. Vampires or not, what this novel is really about is a fatal attraction to someone or something dangerously different from yourself. The trajectory of the story is such that Bella's behavior and choices grow increasingly more disturbing, with irrevocable, self-destructive consequences.”

It will be intersting to see where Bella'schoices take her in the next novel.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: TracyH on May 15, 2006, 03:46 PM
I am dying to know why the kids liked it so much.  I found this book didn't have enough plot to hold my attention and I didn't feel the chemistry between the two characters.  But I am clearly in the minority based on Amazon reviews.  What kept them reading?  Was it that mysterious love of the "bad boy" that so many of us seem to have as teenage girls?  What, what, what?  dave r - ask your kid and report back, please!!

Tracy
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Melissa on May 20, 2006, 04:54 PM
If anyone is headed to BEA, there are ARCS for New Moon available . . . at least there were earlier today. 
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Elle on May 21, 2006, 10:50 AM
I just finished this book last night, and I had to say that I would have been more interested if it were told from Edward's POV, about his internal conflict.... From Bella's POV it felt as if there was no conflict, of course she can't resist him, it's part of his power! But like Jen said, maybe that's what made it different, what makes it stand out from the rest of vampire tales...
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: GreenFrog on May 22, 2006, 05:39 PM
I think that what makes it what it is, is how intense the telling is. It's a book that you can fall into and read and read and read. It feels a little like you could be Bella--which is attractive if you find Edward attractive. (I actually preferred Jake, but that's me.) It's a bit like a teen girl's diary. There may be imperfections, but it feels like a certain type of teenage girl's mind, to me. And, honestly, i enjoyed it. I can't say 100% why, but it's one of the ones i am counting the months 'til the sequel for. I want to know more.

Maybe that's what it is. It gives you a lot, but it makes you want more. It's a world to live in--a place that is both comfortable and dangerous and romantic. What else does a girl want? It's a fairytale. It's beauty and the beast. It's... like rich, chocolate cake.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Jaclyn Dolamore on May 22, 2006, 07:06 PM
That is a good description, GreenFrog.  It is rather like a teen girl's diary...I can totally see Bella looking back on this one day and going, "Aw, man, what was I thinking?  I thought I was so mature and I totally wasn't!"  And that's kind of what I'M thinking while reading it.  But it also had a sort of intriguing-ness to it that kept me reading.

(I thought Carlisle was more interesting than Edward.  But I usually like the older guy.  Although it seems a little funny to say that, considering circumstances.)
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: lindsey on May 23, 2006, 07:43 PM
yeah- what holly said.
I read this book in less than 24 hours. And after I did, I dreamed about the characters (ok, so my husband was Edward in the dream and looked great in Edward's jacket. Which I'm sure I could psyhcoanalze for awhile).
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: katep on May 30, 2006, 08:11 PM
I stopped reading after page 142.  The copyediting was really sloppy.  "Dust moat"?  Aaarrgghhh!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: lindsey on May 31, 2006, 07:07 AM
katep- I found a few errors in there as well *shrugs*
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: GreenFrog on May 31, 2006, 08:18 AM
I wonder if we'd be this picky if it weren't for the large advance. Large advance = marketability, not perfection.

I stand by my liking it, though. It's not one of the ones i rave and rave about, but i do recommend it to other readers. It's not perfect, but it's compelling. At least for some of us. :)
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: katep on May 31, 2006, 08:57 AM
More like large advance = get it out the door too quickly. 
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: kaml_09 on June 06, 2006, 10:21 AM
It is a pretty cool book. I can't wait till the next books come out! :dancing:
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: olmue on July 01, 2006, 09:50 AM
For those of you who liked Twilight, Stephenie has the first chapter of New Moon, the sequel, up on her web site. www.stepheniemeyer.com and go to the New Moon link. You need a recent version of Adobe Acrobat to read it.

I read it because I LOVED Twilight, and can't wait to read more (although I'm leaving the US just before New Moon comes out >:(--thank goodness for Amazon.de). I also happen to be working with my first few chapters, trying to strengthen my hook and get the reader emotionally involved a whole lot quicker. One thing that's helping me educate myself is to read first chapters of books that aren't out yet. If I'm dying to keep reading and it makes me crazy that I can't, it's a good thing.  :). I found that with New Moon, and with Melissa's first chapter as well. (And I'm looking for more, if anyone knows of any.)

Anyhow, I can't wait to read what happens next! I've read comments from people with ARCs that both the writing and Bella's character are stronger. Since I already liked the first book, it's only getting better.  :)
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Athena529 on July 01, 2006, 10:20 AM
I did enjoy reading Twilight, so I checked out the first chapter. Interesting foreshadowing with Romeo and Juliet- I wonder how the author will continue that theme throughout the book (the Italian vampire family she mentions is bound to play a major role) and if R & J will actually foreshadow the entire series. Will it be a trilogy or will there be more than three books?
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Melissa on July 01, 2006, 10:56 AM
I did enjoy reading Twilight, so I checked out the first chapter. Interesting foreshadowing with Romeo and Juliet- I wonder how the author will continue that theme throughout the book (the Italian vampire family she mentions is bound to play a major role) and if R & J will actually foreshadow the entire series. Will it be a trilogy or will there be more than three books?

Twilight uses Wuthering Heights; New Moon uses Romeo & Juliet.  I'd suspect that Eclipse (bk 3) uses another lit classic.

. . .  I also happen to be working with my first few chapters, trying to strengthen my hook and get the reader emotionally involved a whole lot quicker. One thing that's helping me educate myself is to read first chapters of books that aren't out yet. If I'm dying to keep reading and it makes me crazy that I can't, it's a good thing.  :). I found that with New Moon, and with Melissa's first chapter as well. (And I'm looking for more, if anyone knows of any.)

I think that both Kelley Armstrong & Kim Harrison (both adult urban fantasy) upload their first chapters.   (PS Thanks for the sweet remark.)

Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: dave r on July 22, 2006, 09:55 AM
I just booked Stephanie at our store for September.  I'm looking forward to meeting her, but my daughter and her friends are going crazy about it.

keep writing and reading,
dave r
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: inkjunkie on July 22, 2006, 01:48 PM
I know this is about vampires, but is it scary.  Suspense is fine, but I can't handle scary.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: missy t on July 22, 2006, 02:48 PM
inkjunkie -- i don't think it's scary :)

dave r -- where's your store?
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: dave r on July 23, 2006, 10:46 AM
The store is The Blue Marble Bookstore in Ft. Thomas, KY. (just across the Ohio from Cincinnati).  It's a great litle independent that's been open for 27 year now.  It's a terrific place to work, and we get some wonderful authors and illlustrators at the store.  Some are very well known. Others will be soon. (Kevin Henkes stayed with the owners at their house on his first book tour. Several others stayed in the living quarters above the store when they visited.)  Thanks for asking.

keep writing and reading,
dave r
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: missy t on July 24, 2006, 03:17 PM
dave r -- it's too far away for me :(  otherwise, i'd be there and be even more excited than the teenagers!
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: GreenBeans on October 12, 2006, 04:09 PM

I just finished Twilight and thought I'd reopen this thread. (okay, I'm behind on my reading)

My teenage daughter insisted I read this book, so I slogged through the first part, where I thought there was a lot of smoldering intensity and cryptic conversations, but not a lot happening. I got interested when Bella met Edward's family and the tracker vampire showed up, then I had to find out what happened.

I liked the idea of vampires living among regular humans in a semi-normal way. I liked that he sparkled in sunlight. I totally bought the idea of being attracted to someone because of their smell.

I have an unusually keen sense of smell, (but not like Edward's) and I remember a time when I liked this guy but couldn't get past his smell. Not body odor or anything like that, just that everyone has their own peculiar body chemistry and this guy smelled like an old man. My grandpa in particular. Talk about a turn-off.

So with the smell thing in mind, (and not to get too earthy here) but if Edward loves Bella's smell, what happens when she's on her period? Just asking. Wouldn't he have to stay away from her for a week or so?

Another glaring thing that popped into my head, is the fact that this vampire family has lived in this town for a while, it sounds like. So how long does Edward get to stay 17 before someone notices? Wouldn't they have to move every few years and enroll in a new school?

I asked my daughter why she loved this book so much and she said it was Edward. She totally loved Edward and wanted to be Bella.

GreenBeans
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Melissa on October 12, 2006, 04:21 PM
So with the smell thing in mind, (and not to get too earthy here) but if Edward loves Bella's smell, what happens when she's on her period? Just asking. Wouldn't he have to stay away from her for a week or so?

I didn't want to bring that up, but that was my first question when I read the initial chapter of New Moon (on Meyer's site).  The event that set NM into motion is that the vamps freak out when Bella gets cut at their house.  Now, only Edward is particularly sensitive to Bella's blood, so I had to wonder how they were able to go to high school or the park or anywhere.  People have smallinjuries often, and women with periods . . . well, I can't imagine the vampires could avoid all of them. Ever. I could buy that Edward has trouble & maybe he avoids her those days, but they ALL respond strongly. I struggled with the logic here.  Maybe there's an answer, but we aren't being provided it just yet.

Don't get me wrong: there were parts of both books I truly enjoyed, but this was one of the illogical things that struck me as needing explained.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: CC on November 06, 2006, 04:42 PM
I recently bought Twilight and I'm only on chapter 3, but I am absolutely riveted! I love the voice. Vampires aren't my usual reading material, but so far I'm terribly impressed.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: KymBrunner on November 07, 2006, 05:08 AM
I listened to the first disc and was bored. Saw that there were eleven more and said, "Uh, no way." KIM
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: JustinDono on November 10, 2006, 11:07 AM
I read all of twilight, and I liked it okay.  Keep in mind, I'm a guy(and a heterosexual), so long descriptions of how beautiful/sexy/godly a 17 year old (looking) boy is don't exactly thrill me.  Plus, Bella was a bit too silly girlish at times, but that's clearly intentional.  But really, it's a good book.  Not amazing fantastic, but really good and interesting.  i read most of it in a single day and wasn't bored (except perhaps for a few chapters in the middle).

That said, i really like that Stephenie Meyers mixed up the vampire mythology and gave it her own spin.  The sunlight thing, the co-habitation with humans, it was all very wel ldone.  i also really like how she made and portrayed the cullens.  They're all very unique and the scenes with them were my favorite.  I liked Edward too, but Bella's constant harlequin-romance-novelesque descriptions of him grated on my nerves.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Sarah Miller on January 23, 2007, 02:41 PM
I listened to the first disc and was bored. Saw that there were eleven more and said, "Uh, no way." KIM

I wonder if this book suffers in the audio version. I'm on disc 4, and I'm very NOT riveted. I'm sticking with it until my next hold comes in at the library. Some of the phrasing sounds a bit stiff for the 17-year-old narrator, and so far, the whole thing seems run-of-the-mill to me. But so many people just eat this book alive -- what am I missing?  ???
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Jen on January 23, 2007, 02:56 PM
I feel like in order for an audio book to be enjoyable, it has to be really, really tight.  When you're reading over a physical book, you can skim passages that wax poetic for a bit too long, and re-read the ones you love, and I found myself doing this often with Twilight.  There are parts that I would read over and over, and there were parts that I would barely read at all.  I love the book, but probably wouldn't be as fond of the audio version.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Barbara Eveleth on January 29, 2007, 04:46 AM
This is our next mother/daughter book pick. My daughter loves this. Just wish she'd hurry up and finish it for me to start.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Sarah Miller on January 31, 2007, 05:22 PM
All right, I hung in there through disc #5 and gave in. I really don't dislike Twilight, but I guess I just don't get it. I feel like I'm really missing something -- how can I be indifferent about a bestseller?  :-[
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: JustinDono on January 31, 2007, 08:09 PM
All right, I hung in there through disc #5 and gave in. I really don't dislike Twilight, but I guess I just don't get it. I feel like I'm really missing something -- how can I be indifferent about a bestseller?  :-[

Well, bestseller doesn't mean it's a good book.  In fact, a lot of books that have gotten to the #1 NYTimes spot have been, well, crap.  There are many that are good, however, the best seller list only measures popularity, not quality.  If you don't like it, that doesn't mean you're not "getting" it, it just means you don't like the book, and that's fine.
I thought it was pretty good, but nothing terribly miraculous.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Sarah Miller on January 31, 2007, 09:52 PM
Well, bestseller doesn't mean it's a good book.  In fact, a lot of books that have gotten to the #1 NYTimes spot have been, well, crap.  There are many that are good, however, the best seller list only measures popularity, not quality.  If you don't like it, that doesn't mean you're not "getting" it, it just means you don't like the book, and that's fine.
That's true, but I usually have feelings one way or the other -- "crap" or "not crap" at the very least. For me, Twilight is just...eh...not interesting. I can't even muster up enough oomph to really dislike it.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Barbara Eveleth on February 01, 2007, 04:32 AM
My thirteen year old loves it. I haven't started it yet so I can't comment. But if my daughter likes a book and TELLS ME SO, well then I am satisfied cuz she doesn't like much. She is a tough nut.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Gisele on February 01, 2007, 06:21 AM
SPOILER WARNING!!!!

I loved Twilight AND New Moon. I know that a lot of people said that they thought Bella was a weak character--but I totally disagree. Bella was head-strong and stubborn, and she left Forks when she did not only for her own safety, but to keep Charlie safe as well. I mean, she tried to save her mom by going to meet James, knowing darn well that she was probably going to die, and did it on her own. If that doesn't make her strong, I don't know what does.

And yes, it was Edward and the other Cullens that saved her, but my goodness, she fought until the last second. It wouldn't have been believable to me if she had been able to kill James herself. She's a human, with no powers, and she was against a strong vampire. She isn't Buffy after all.  ;)

Yes, Bella is totally ga ga over Edward, but let's not forget that part of her attraction to him is probably the vampire thing. Several of the women in the book were taken with Edward as well.

I do feel that both books could have been tightened a little, and there may be a few things that weren't perfect, but it didn't stop me from enjoying the story. I think Stephenie knows how to weave a tale that reels you in, and I also loved her unique twist on vampire mythology. It's normal that some people won't enjoy the book. It's all subjective.
Personally, I'm happy to see that Stephenie got such a great deal for a debut novelist--it's inpiring.  :moose
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: Sarah Miller on February 01, 2007, 07:52 AM
Gosh, it sounds like things get a lot more peppy in the second half of the book! Maybe I'll give it another chance one of these days.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: JustinDono on February 01, 2007, 08:41 AM
Gosh, it sounds like things get a lot more peppy in the second half of the book! Maybe I'll give it another chance one of these days.

*warning, spoilers ahead!*


It's really only for about 60 pages near the end (chapters 18-22, i think), followed by about 40-50 more pages of not much going on.  Furthermore, Mrs. Meyers  denies the read the ultimate climax, that is, the reader never gets to see the fight between James and Edward and Emmet (I think that's the big guy's name).  Bella just passes out and when she wakes up, Edward tells her James is dead.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: emykate03 on February 05, 2007, 08:38 AM
I read Twilight this week and was totally obsessed. I wrote about the obsession over at my blog. I agree that Bella was a bit of an idiot at times, but MCs aren't supposed to be perfect. I related to Bella and totally fell in love with Edward, fictionally of course.
I heard Stephenie Meyer speak on Saturday. Despite saying that she is very uncomfortable speaking in front of crowds, she was an excellent speaker. I didn't get my books signed, though. The line was about 2 hours long. Oh, and it sounds like her website addresses a lot of the questions she is frequently asked.
Title: Re: Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
Post by: AnneWritesYA on February 15, 2007, 01:48 PM
I read Twilight this week and was totally obsessed. I wrote about the obsession over at my blog. I agree that Bella was a bit of an idiot at times, but MCs aren't supposed to be perfect. I related to Bella and totally fell in love with Edward, fictionally of course.

I read Twilight in a looong day  ;D I couldn't put it down still not sure if it was because of Bella or Edward - but I think emykate nails it - Bella made mistakes and in doing so (for me) I cheered on for her and Edward, knowing at some point it might be like watching a train wreck.

I haven't read New Moon yet, but it's my prize for finishing my WIP.  Can't wait!!  :reading2: