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Title: A Santa question!
Post by: Christine B. on September 19, 2018, 06:37 PM
Ho, ho, ho! I have a Santa question and I’m prefacing it that I’m  seeking your personal opinion, not “factual” stuff.  :grin3

Think of Santa Claus — the contemporary American version of Santa, such as the one who asked Rudolph to guide his sleigh, or perhaps the one in ‘Twas the Night Before Christmas, NOT an actual saint or historic figure. When do you picture this character as having lived? Century, decade or general time period appreciated.

THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: Debbie Vilardi on September 19, 2018, 08:19 PM
Kids under 10 would look at this question as if it were written by a crazy person. Santa is alive and well today.

But the one you mention is clearly early to mid last century. It's not a more modern version. The traditional Santa has been modernized in a number of places.
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: AnneB on September 19, 2018, 08:37 PM
Santa is forever. That is all.
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: Christine B. on September 19, 2018, 09:01 PM
Anne: Indeed he is!

Debbie, wait, isn’t he still alive?!?

But in seriousness: thanks for that answer.  I picture him as someone who would have been born late 1800s or maybe early 1900s as well. (Again, meaning when I think of the Rudolph story Santa. I am working on something with Santa. But it’s definitely the jolly, red clad Santa, not Saint Nicholas, who I envision differently.)
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: dewsanddamps on September 20, 2018, 11:01 AM
If you're talking material culture, I visualize Santa in a nineteenth-century environment--wooden toys, horse-drawn sleighs. But maybe more a bit toward late-century Victorian period.
 :santa
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: Trine on September 20, 2018, 05:08 PM
I've seen him.
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: Christine B. on September 20, 2018, 05:53 PM
If you're talking material culture, I visualize Santa in a nineteenth-century environment--wooden toys, horse-drawn sleighs. But maybe more a bit toward late-century Victorian period.
 :santa

Thank you!!
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: Melody on September 21, 2018, 07:11 AM
I think of Santa as having his 'prime' in the traditional Clement Moore story, TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE XMAS. [SPELLING?]

But, as stated, Santa is forever....
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: thunderingelephants on September 22, 2018, 06:01 AM
The long white beard and red jacket and hat are what kids immediately think of.
It is weird what you think of, although you didn't want factual stuff: whenever I think of Santa now I think of Coca Cola and the way they've monopolised a simple traditional folk tale.
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: Christine B. on September 22, 2018, 10:03 AM
Thank you, Melody! It sounds like that’s a consensus (and it’s my thought, too!).

Thanks, Thundering. That is actually really good stuff to think about! By factual, I meant I’m working on something about Santa growing up and tying to place him in a time period, but I’m working with the Santa we’ve been discussing above, as opposed to the saint who lived in the 4th century, for example.
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: Barbara Etlin on September 22, 2018, 10:18 PM
I'm just a bit over ten, and I don't celebrate Christmas, but I happen to know that Santa is alive and well. I met him last December and wrote a blog post about him.

https://owlsquill.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-truth-about-santa.html

Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: Christine B. on September 25, 2018, 10:24 PM
I love that story, Barbara.
Title: Re: A Santa question!
Post by: thunderingelephants on October 04, 2018, 04:46 AM
Thank you, Melody! It sounds like that’s a consensus (and it’s my thought, too!).

Thanks, Thundering. That is actually really good stuff to think about! By factual, I meant I’m working on something about Santa growing up and tying to place him in a time period, but I’m working with the Santa we’ve been discussing above, as opposed to the saint who lived in the 4th century, for example.

Only a suggestion (a probably a daft one), but Coca-Cola is reputedly responsible for Santa's modern outfit. It was green until they hijacked it.