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Title: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: Schriscoe on October 15, 2019, 12:59 PM
My WIP needs to have a fishless cove. I need my MC to actually bring fish to the cove vs. there being fish already in it. It is barricaded from the open water with a sea wall, so could it be possible to not have fish in it? :shrug

Thanks!
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: dewsanddamps on October 15, 2019, 02:11 PM
Saltwater, right? (I know nothing about coves. Just thinking it through.)
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: Schriscoe on October 15, 2019, 02:43 PM
Yes, sorry. Saltwater. The cove is protected from rough seas by a sea wall.
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: andracill on October 15, 2019, 03:44 PM
Well, the only cove I'm familiar with doesn't have fish (at least, as far as I know), but that's because seals live there, LOL. It's La Jolla Cove in southern CA.
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: Vijaya on October 15, 2019, 03:53 PM
I have no idea, Sharon, but if there are fishless coves, then you can certainly have it for your wip. By the way, when I first read this, I thought, Covers without fish? And all I could think of was the goldfish bowl with the fish jumping out--it's on two books. lol.

By the way, just because there are no fish observed does not mean there aren't any fish in that particular area. I don't know whether this helps your wip or not, but I'm throwing it out there.
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: Debbie Vilardi on October 15, 2019, 05:46 PM
The question is more refined than this because your WIP takes place in a specific area. Why not contact marine scientists from universities and research organizations in that area. Local maritime museums may also have your answers, possibly even in their gift shop book sections. If there are no fish, there also wouldn't be any birds that eat fish hanging around that cove. You need to learn the ecosystem. Wish  I could be of more help.
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: JulieM on October 15, 2019, 09:17 PM
I may be off track, but if it's a work of fiction you could say it has no fish because of local environmental issues (eg pollution runoff from a factory, dredging nearby which destroyed the breeding grounds, or whatever it's called when shipping companies dig up the substrate to deepen the channels nearby. If these aren't too "heavy", that is.)
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: dinalapomy101 on October 16, 2019, 04:30 AM
I think JulieM is on the right track here.

1. Fish live in the ocean and cove
2. A sea wall is built
3. The fish in the cove have *something bad happen* that wipes them all out
4. No more fish live in the cove

It still seems like a stretch for there to be ZERO fish....but stranger things have happened.

Otherwise, WHY do you need there to be no fish? Can you come up with another plot or setting device?
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: marla-lesage on October 16, 2019, 06:43 AM
I assume it has to be a cove? The seawall is important? There are other bodies of fishless water (ie cuts from open coal mining - there is one in atlantic canada that has been well stocked with goldfish. Be cause it's not a naturally ocurring body of water the fish were quite a surprise.)
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: Vijaya on October 16, 2019, 08:11 AM
I may be off track, but if it's a work of fiction you could say it has no fish because of local environmental issues (eg pollution runoff from a factory, dredging nearby which destroyed the breeding grounds, or whatever it's called when shipping companies dig up the substrate to deepen the channels nearby. If these aren't too "heavy", that is.)

I like the way you think, Julie, with more plot complications.
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: JulieM on October 16, 2019, 03:30 PM
I like the way you think, Julie, with more plot complications.
Thanks, Vijaya. : )
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: Schriscoe on October 16, 2019, 07:12 PM
I like the way you think, Julie, with more plot complications.

Exactly!!

Thanks everyone!! You all rock! I now know what to do and I have the perfect 'bad guy' in my WIP to place blame on.
Title: Re: Coves without fish in them?
Post by: JulieM on October 18, 2019, 10:05 PM
Great to hear, Schrisco. Happy writing!