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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Word limit in Speech Bubble for PB
« Last post by Mindy Alyse Weiss on February 21, 2020, 02:53 AM »
It's great to see you here, Marsha!

You already have great advice...mentor texts should be a huge help. You could also create a dummy with the text and speech bubbles and see how much room they leave for illustrations.

Good luck! I can't wait to hear more about this when you can share. :)
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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Word limit in Speech Bubble for PB
« Last post by christripp on February 21, 2020, 02:48 AM »
Also check out Carter Goodrich's PB's "Mr Bud wears the cone", "Meet Zorro" and "Zorro gets an outfit", using narrative and speech. I feel you want to keep the total PB word count in mind, so cut out page narrative when the speech is longer, for example.
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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Word limit in Speech Bubble for PB
« Last post by Debbie Vilardi on February 20, 2020, 06:03 PM »
With the rise in graphic works, I doubt there is a limit as long as the page works as a whole.
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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Word limit in Speech Bubble for PB
« Last post by marsha-arnold on February 20, 2020, 11:48 AM »
Thank you, Jody. I'll be doing more research and will definitely take a look at Dev's and Tammi's.
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Picture Books (PB) / Re: Word limit in Speech Bubble for PB
« Last post by JodyJS on February 20, 2020, 11:12 AM »
Hi Marsha,

I've mostly seen just a few words or a couple of short sentences in speech bubbles. But I can imagine if a character goes on a rant, there could be many more words. Have you studied recently-released books that use speech bubbles? Dev Petty's, for instance, or Tammi Sauer's?
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Picture Books (PB) / Word limit in Speech Bubble for PB
« Last post by marsha-arnold on February 20, 2020, 09:54 AM »
It's the first time I've tried to post on the Blueboard! How can that be? I'm wondering what you think the limit to number of words in a speech bubble should be. I'm working on a story that I hope will have both speech bubbles and narrative. Thanks all.
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The Art of Grammar / Re: Flow/rhythm v. standard grammar
« Last post by jacquelyn-bazelow on February 20, 2020, 08:54 AM »
If I were and editor and I saw those commas, I might worry you don't know the grammar rules. This could be concerning.

I'd either write:  (Removing the second "that were" has no effect on this.)

Or write: There were sunny days. And rainy days. Days that were warm. And days that were covered in snow. (Again, you can remove the two words.) This shows that you are making a choice, not lacking in knowledge or skill.

Trust your reader to get it. If you really want pauses, go for the longer pauses that come with periods.

My general rule is to be correct and let the editor, illustrator,  and art director decide how the page turns will work and whether your lines will be split in the text layout. That's part of their job.

But, I must repeat, I believe in trusting the reader.


Thank you! I do struggle with wanting control over flow/cadence, which I'll have to work on. I think trying to let go and trust the reader is great advice. I appreciate it!

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The Art of Grammar / Re: Flow/rhythm v. standard grammar
« Last post by jacquelyn-bazelow on February 20, 2020, 08:52 AM »
The semicolon is incorrect.

Thank you. Mom brain has sapped a lot of my grammar, it seems. I'll have to read through my old strunk one of these days.

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The Art of Grammar / Re: Flow/rhythm v. standard grammar
« Last post by Debbie Vilardi on February 19, 2020, 05:55 PM »
If I were an editor and I saw those commas, I might worry you don't know the grammar rules. This could be concerning.

I'd either write:
There were sunny days and rainy days, days that were warm and days that were covered in snow."
(Removing the second "that were" has no effect on this.)

Or write: There were sunny days. And rainy days. Days that were warm. And days that were covered in snow. (Again, you can remove the two words.) This shows that you are making a choice, not lacking in knowledge or skill.

Trust your reader to get it. If you really want pauses, go for the longer pauses that come with periods.

My general rule is to be correct and let the editor, illustrator,  and art director decide how the page turns will work and whether your lines will be split in the text layout. That's part of their job.

But, I must repeat, I believe in trusting the reader.
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The Art of Grammar / Re: Flow/rhythm v. standard grammar
« Last post by RebeccaL-G on February 19, 2020, 05:44 PM »
Psssttt . . . fragments are okay when used lyrically. You could write the following if you wanted to.  There were sunny days. And rainy days. I wouldn't get too hung up on it. 
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