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Middle Grade (MG) / Re: Scene with domestic violence?
« Last post by JulieM on June 24, 2020, 05:08 PM »
The DV I have read has been in YA books (but I'm not particularly well read in MG).
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All Other Good News / Re: Big Birthday News!
« Last post by JulieM on June 24, 2020, 05:05 PM »
Happy birthday, Haunted! It is so good to have so much left to do. Enjoy every moment you can. XX
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All Other Good News / Re: Big Birthday News!
« Last post by hauntedsouls on June 24, 2020, 04:52 PM »
Oh I have a few tricks up my sleeve yet!
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All Other Good News / Re: Big Birthday News!
« Last post by Ev on June 24, 2020, 04:44 PM »
:hb Haunted!  65 is a great number! Enjoy it to the fullest. This is the only year you get to be that number. Have fun. Try new challenges. Spend time with those you care about. :flowers2
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Middle Grade (MG) / Re: Scene with domestic violence?
« Last post by Pons on June 24, 2020, 03:56 PM »
Along the lines of showing the aftermath instead of the event, you could have the violence happen off page. Someone could overhear or a friend could happen by. The reader can learn through the eyes of a secondary character. This also gives you a chance to edit what you say. A suggestion can go a long way. You do not need to include every detail. Your MC could write about the situation or listen to a play list s/he reserves for these times. These are a just few suggestions, but I don't think you need or should hit this with a head-on description.

I know the prevailing opinion is that kids want to read about the same awful things that have happened to them, but I'm not sure this is true. I'm not sure it isn't either. I'd just be very careful. Kids want and need their pain to be known and acknowledged, but it's been my experience they don't want to relive it. They don't want to feel like the only person in the world that has experienced whatever, but they don't want to dwell in that world. If anything, they want a story that takes them away, and I understand that feeling.

Our bodies respond to memories almost the same way they respond to the actual event. Some people are more sensitive to this than others. One of my daughters could not stay in the same room and watch a show where someone was going to be terribly embarrassed or humiliated or hurt. She felt it. Her siblings didn't as much. 
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Middle Grade (MG) / Re: Scene with domestic violence?
« Last post by Vijaya on June 24, 2020, 12:31 PM »
That's the first book I thought of, Marcia. I remember Carolyn saying that it's more of a YA because of that scene.
What about Nancy Werlin's Rules of Survival? It's considered YA but appropriate for upper MG.

Jerry, at this point, I'd simply write the story. Later you can revise to set the appropriate tone you want. Lots of kids live with domestic violence and I'm sure they appreciate an accurate portrayal. Often showing the aftermath can be more powerful than the actual event.
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All Other Good News / Re: Big Birthday News!
« Last post by Vijaya on June 24, 2020, 11:59 AM »
:hb3 Haunted!!! Birthdays are so wonderful, remembering all the blessings we've received. Enjoy your special day!
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Middle Grade (MG) / Re: Scene with domestic violence?
« Last post by mrh on June 24, 2020, 11:34 AM »
Have you read WHAT JAMIE SAW by Carolyn Coman? It's an older book, more than 20 years old I'd say. In the opening scene, an adult throws a baby across a room. I couldn't with that, and still can't. I'm not sure it's a predictor of what could get published for MG, since it seems such an outlier.

"An argument on a porch" sounds really mild by comparison, but of course that argument could be anything from trivial to devastating. I do think it still holds pretty true that you have to watch the language or school librarians will tend not to buy it. And I might limit any violence to a push or shove. I think it's very possible to convey a difficult home life while staying understated.
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All Other Good News / Big Birthday News!
« Last post by hauntedsouls on June 24, 2020, 08:42 AM »
I turned the big 65 today. My goodness - I don't feel 65 but age is only a number right? I still have so much to do in this life. I'm always grateful for this beautiful community and glad to share the news! :stars3 :stars3 :stars3 :stars3
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Middle Grade (MG) / Scene with domestic violence?
« Last post by jerry-harwood on June 24, 2020, 08:36 AM »
In my WIP there is a boy with a tough home situation.  There is an argument outside on a porch in the public eye.  I don't want it to be gruesome or set the book beyond MG.  But I also want it to be relatable and realistic.  I've re-written the scene several times now.  Any advice how to include hard topics like that in MG fiction without changing the overall feel of the book too dark?  Examples where people have done this well?  It is not a book about abuse.  But it is an important narrative piece for the protagonist to "see behind the curtain" of the antagonists' life.
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