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Hey,

I'm in the process of writing a graphic novel, a dark fantasy. Was wondering if anyone else is. This part of the board seems dead, so....maybe not.
#1 - April 12, 2010, 04:11 PM

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After finishing my current WIP, I'll be revising a PB ms to a chapter book graphic novel (same MC, different plot). I'm also planning on doing the illustrations.
#2 - April 25, 2010, 08:18 AM
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Jasmin,

I dont plan to illustrate the GN. But from what I know, billions of comic writers cant draw so..... Right now I'm just going to try and sell it as a script. I think because of today's economy a lot of publishers are not looking to match up with their own illustators.

I guess if I had to, i could do a shout out here on the board and see if I can get an illustrator who would want to split with me and sub to some publishers. :-?

Mike
#3 - May 01, 2010, 11:43 AM

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I guess if I had to, i could do a shout out here on the board and see if I can get an illustrator who would want to split with me and sub to some publishers. :-?

You might consider going to a comic book convention/show. There are a lot of creators/artists that attend looking for people to connect with. It would also give you an opportunity to see a lot of different styles of drawing.
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#4 - May 03, 2010, 08:40 PM

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Thanks, Gim :-)
#5 - May 04, 2010, 06:41 AM

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I am writing and illustrating a graphic novel for tweens.  :)  

And today I just read this via the SCBWI blog and after hitting my head a few times against my desk, thought and I'd post the bit that really caught my attention...i.e. the 75 pages:
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The moment that Dan suggested writing a graphic novel for kids, I knew that I wanted it to be a communication between two curious girls.  The story just popped into my head and before I knew it the ideas were flowing out of my brain faster than I could type them. Because I wrote the autobiographical graphic novel without an outline (I didn't even sketch first, just wrote and drew on blank pages with ink like a nutbag) Dan had me write a very detailed outline before he gave me the go ahead to start drawing. He read it and made very helpful suggestions, and held my hand through the outline writing process (writing an outline isn't the sort of thing I learned in art school--I could weld, but writing an outline was an entirely new and daunting experience). After it was finished I drew the first 75 pages of the book, and those pages, along with the outline, was what Dan submitted to publishers.

I've been developing an outline as well as character sheets, but had determined that 2-3 chapters (about 20 pages of art and text) would be enough to represent my project to publishers.  Now I'm not so sure...and at the moment I am agent-less.  What do you all think about her process?

Here's the link if anyone wants to read further:
http://scbwi.blogspot.com/2010/05/debut-author-amy-ignatow-popularity.html

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#6 - May 15, 2010, 03:52 PM

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75 pages seems like a lot! 2-3 chapters sounds reasonable for page samples, however, you might want to have the whole GN written before you submit.

Then again, before you panic, check out submission guidelines. It seems like they are different for every publisher and agent.
#7 - May 15, 2010, 04:38 PM
Site - http://sruble.com
Twitter - http://twitter.com/StephanieRuble

picture book: EWE AND AYE (Disney-Hyperion)

Bree Ogden of Martin Literary Management is looking to rep GN. She talks about it here and links to Mike Chinn's book on the process: http://www.martinliterarymanagement.com/bree-ogden.htm

Jasmine, I've considered this market, too. I think it suits my writing style. Going to check out that book!
#8 - May 15, 2010, 06:58 PM

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@Stephanie: Good points!

I have Mike Chin's book, "Writing and Illustrating the Graphic Novel" and I highly recommend it.  Good examples and points to ponder. :)

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#9 - May 17, 2010, 03:12 PM

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This has been an interesting thread.

I'm a PB author/illustrator and my agent and I tried to sell my first GN in the spring.  Some editors liked it, some didn't - but no one loved it so it hasn't been picked up - yet.  (It's still at a couple houses but I'm not holding my breath at this point.)  I'm currently working on a second one.  The first one was in color and that might have been a negative factor in the cost analysis of the project so I'm shooting for B&W on #2.

I have to say I'm shocked someone drew up 75 pages of a GN!  WOW - that's a lot of work.  I think I subbed 10 pages of color and then another 20 of sketches.  Of course, mine didn't get picked up so I might have a lot of sketch work ahead of me.  :)

I'll check out Mike Chin's book.  I read Scott McCloud's Making Comics and thought that was pretty great.

Good luck to everyone!
#10 - August 19, 2010, 05:41 AM

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I'm currently working on a GN script.  I went to a really great workshop at the New England SCBWI conference this past spring that dealt with writing the script, not the illustrating portion (which I will definitely be leaving up to someone else!)  Up until the workshop, I hadn't really been sure if I was approaching the script the right way (for example, I was using cinematic language in some of the panel descriptions--and I learned that that is OK!) 

#11 - August 26, 2010, 01:52 AM

*raises hand* Me! I'm nearly halfway through illustrating my first graphic novel (which I also wrote.)  My agent wants me to have as much illustrated as possible before submitting. I think I can have it entirely illustrated by mid-April, so I'm super excited about it!

(I realize this thread is super old, so I hope it's okay that I'm posting!)
#12 - February 21, 2013, 05:04 PM

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Hi Nicki!

I think it's great to get a little bump on this thread, and maybe bring some activity back to this board!

The amount of illustrating that goes into a GN has always blown me away! How long all together do you think it's taken you?








 
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I bow to the power of the Graphic Novelist.  :bow Keep us posted, Nicki! Can't wait to hear more about your project and  :goodluck:yay
#14 - February 21, 2013, 05:47 PM
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Thanks! :) It took a year to write and revise the ms. The illustrations will take 12 weeks total, working about 8 hours day.
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 :wow Nicki! It is so hard for those of us who don't illustrate to fully comprehend the work that goes into a GN behind the scenes. I think there are so many possibilities for GNs in the digital space. Very exciting!  :chickendance
#16 - February 22, 2013, 05:56 AM
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Thanks for this thread. I wrote a script for a graphic novel last year and haven't known what to do with it. I'm going to look into Mike Chin's book. I also like the excuse to go to a comic convention for networking.
#17 - February 24, 2013, 03:57 PM

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I've actually got a hold on Mike Chinn's book at the library, can't wait for it to get here!

A comic convention would be so fun!! Totally get my geek on.   :ha
#18 - February 24, 2013, 04:46 PM
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When I looked online for Mike Chinn's book at my library, I also found this one: Writing and illustrating the graphic novel / Daniel Cooney.
Publication Info.    Hauppauge, NY : Barrons, 2011.

Good luck Nicki! Keep us posted on your progress.
#19 - February 25, 2013, 03:25 PM

I'm writing/drawing a 20 page sample to submit for a "magical girl" series (see my pile of pages here: https://twitter.com/amykibuishi/status/294147242602946560/photo/1). I started as a comic artist, struggled with prose for 5 years, and am now going back to see if I can do comics as a career again because my prose is sadly not good enough yet. I don't know if it ever will be. That's ok because comics are fun too, and they do a good job in getting reluctant readers into books. Besides, the story I'm working on is definitely better served as a comic, full of visual gags etc.

I have to admit it's been so hard getting this sample done between my kids' naps (I have a baby and a toddler), but I'm making good progress considering it took me so long to write a single prose novel. Yay for compressed storytelling~

Comics can be tough, but totally doable if taken in small chunks, one page at a time. Good luck to you all!
#20 - February 25, 2013, 04:05 PM
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I can't imagine illustrating a graphic novel with a toddler and a baby! My daughter is nearly 4 now, and I'm just starting to feel like I have any spare time at all. You are incredible, whibbage!
#21 - February 25, 2013, 04:28 PM

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Wow!!! Those look amazing, whibbage!! Please keep us updated!! Are you close to submitting?

And I'm so with you on trying to fit in time around the little ones. My 5 yo just started kindergarten this year, and I'm hoping to get the 3 yo into preschool soon. Once they are all in school full time I'll be so productive!!

When I held the Mike Chinn book, I also put a hold on Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud. I've heard it's supposed to be good. I'm going to check for the Daniel Clooney one as well, thanks for the rec Kate!

I'm so glad this thread has taken off!!  :chickendance
#22 - February 25, 2013, 04:30 PM
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Ditto to the amazing-ness of your post whibbage. Your work looks dynamic and fun. Just what me and my 9 year-old love in a graphic novel!
#23 - February 25, 2013, 05:07 PM

NickiS - I have lots of help from Grandma and a part-time babysitter. It's still exhausting but I'm trying to pace myself. I don't think I can go another year without getting my work out there somehow!

Artemesia - Thanks so much! I still have to color the pages and finish the last 10 pages of inks before submitting. They don't need much from me because I already have two graphic novels under my belt as proof of concept. It feels good to draw comics again and nice to feel wanted by a publisher, although... I am a little sad that the prose thing didn't pan out. It's a childhood dream of mine. When I finish revising/illustrating my online novel I'm going to ask my agent to shop it around and hopefully we can find a home for it.

And oh man, Understanding Comics will CHANGE YOUR LIFE. Be prepared! (also, I constantly plan for the day the kids go to school too. Half of what I do is in preparation for that day because I will have so much time!!! Can you imagine??)

Kate G Thank you! :D I hope you and your 9-year-old will be able to read it some day. I'm trying to make just the kind of comic I would've loved to read as a kid. ^_^
#24 - February 26, 2013, 11:06 PM
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I am so ready for a life changing read!! Now I absolutely cannot wait for it to get here.

And I feel giddy when I think of what I'll get done when the kids are in school!

And the prose thing could still come, it takes a lot of writing to find your voice and learn the craft. And if it doesn't, you obviously have other great skills!!

What do you all use for inking and coloring? I have a set of Sakura Pigma Sensei pens that I've been playing with. I've been coloring with watercolors (I love Daniel Smith) on Arches HP, but my current project isn't a true GN. It's for very young readers and is just inspired by GNs. But I want to learn more as I have plans for project for an MG audience.
#25 - February 27, 2013, 09:45 AM
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Wow, those pages are amazing, Whibbage! LOVE! I can't imagine having that kind of skill.
And I agree with Arty, prose can come. You might just need to find your voice, and need to spend more time at it. But man, you're clearly overflowing with talent already. ;)
#26 - February 27, 2013, 10:53 AM
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Wow!!! Those look amazing, whibbage!! Please keep us updated!!

Right??? And please, please, please don't give up on your prose whibbage! I've been wondering how you've been doing. I signed up for a free webcast tomorrow on DBW called Build and Distribute Beautiful Interactive Content with Inkling Habitat, thought of you then forgot to tweet you the link.  :slaphead: off to do that now.... :)
#27 - February 27, 2013, 04:50 PM
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I was so glad to see some life back on this board!

Nice work Whibbage! Good luck with the book. I wrapped up co-writing and artist duties on my first GN toward the end of last year. The GN will be coming out in a month or so from Arcana Comics (http://www.arcana.com/). I've loved the medium since I was young and have enjoyed being a part of the community. Happy to have others here who share that passion.

Here is a link to an online gallery containing a few pages from the GN:
http://ajschumacher.deviantart.com/gallery/42362494
#28 - February 28, 2013, 11:39 PM
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wow!! those are pretty bada$$, AJ!!!  :yup
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Thanks Artemesia!

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