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Artemesia things will get better. She seems like a smart girl because she knows who she does and does not want to live with.

I am watching the video and the first thing I noticed about the author is that he too is fat. lol Myabe he should read his oun book.
#31 - August 25, 2011, 06:42 PM

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I really don't think you have to go far beyond the cover to be horrified.  The story's protagonist is supposed to be 14, and is holding up a dress that is meant for a teenager and could be quite alluring, but the girl on the cover looks much younger and appears to be a-sexual.  (Message: If you're heavy, you don't appear to be your age and you are perceived by others as asexual.)  Also, look at the size of that dress.  It would barely fit around the cover girl's arm!  (Message: It's a swell idea to lose 65% of your body weight and become stick-thin in order to look age-appropriate and appealing as a young women.) 

This has nothing to do with health or fitness or being an appropriate weight.  I'm not a big fan of banning books, but I'd be more likely to hand a child a book of pony porn.

And the tags this book has garnered on Amazon -- priceless.
#32 - August 28, 2011, 12:19 PM
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I'm not placing all self-pubbed books into one awful category. Hence my quote: "ill-written and ill-targeted."

And do I think CNN should've given its viewing audience the heads-up that it is self-pubbed, yes I do. Because in this case I think that matters.

I'm sorry I misinterpreted your intent. Thanks for clearing things up. 

I feel that part of any book coverage should be the publisher's name, and agree that CNN was slipshod to leave that out.
#33 - August 28, 2011, 01:12 PM

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This from a guy whose last book was Booger Bob - a picture book about boogers. :snork

Oh... I am not kidding - it's on Amazon.
#34 - August 28, 2011, 01:20 PM
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I think it's a little misleading to the average consumer who doesn't know the industry, as amazon lists the publisher as Aloha Publishing, which I'm pretty sure is a vanity press. But to the layman it doesn't stand out as a self-pubbed title.


This from a guy whose last book was Booger Bob - a picture book about boogers. What a talented dude... :snork

hmmm, so you're saying I should rethink my nose-picker PB???  :slaphead: (hehe, I'm so kidding, btw)
#35 - August 28, 2011, 01:54 PM
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There are picture books that deal with healthy lifestyles and making good eating choices. Even board books that highlight fruits and veggies, etc. In my opinion, those are the right choices for younger readers.

Honestly, while I'm sure the author's intent is pure, I would have a hard time picturing older readers going for this book.
#36 - August 28, 2011, 04:20 PM

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Still no reviews of the diet book on Amazon.
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Stephanie--that's so, so sad.  :cry2 My heart goes out to your friend's family.
#38 - August 29, 2011, 04:51 AM

There are books that address issues of body image and weight with honesty and grace. ARTICHOKE'S HEART and MODEL'S DON'T EAT CHOCOLATE COOKIES spring to mind.
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Hey all,

A librarian friend brought this book to my attention--MAGGIE GOES ON A DIET by Paul Kramer. http://www.amazon.com/Maggie-Goes-Diet-Paul-Kramer/dp/0981974554

It's getting a lot of really negative angry reviews--I looked at the publisher's website and it's a vanity press. But, Mr. Kramer got on Good Morning America, here: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/maggie-diet-author-paul-kramer-defends-teen-dieting/story?id=14362132

So, I wondered, is the author an expert in the field--this is a sort of self help book? Is all publicity good publicity? Do you think this book will sell well?
Personally, I'm sort of horrified by the message that a 11 year old girl would be encouraged to go on a "diet".  But anyone can publish a book now, so this is a sample of what can happen.

I've got several friends who are considering self-pubbing and are going the right route (hiring and editor, copy-editor, illustrator). I'm so curious about Mr. Kramer's process. Did he have a crit group who said this is a great idea?

Anyone have an opinion?
#40 - August 31, 2011, 03:49 PM
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As someone who worked in healthcare, and saw the alarming statistics about the rising obesity rate amount young people, well...

I still think this is a bad idea.

The PARENTS are the ones who need to be educated. The bad eating habits are begun by, and propagated by them.

Hopefully those parents can then turn their attention to lawmakers who directly aid the deterioration of our food quality by allowing things like MsG to be inserted in our food without being explicitly labeled, and food industry folks who think it's a great idea to save money by sneaking corn syrup and its variations into most everything.

But don't start with the kids.

When the parents eat healthier, their children will eat healthier, as well. Families tend to eat together.
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When the parents eat healthier, their children will eat healthier, as well. Families tend to eat together.

I agree with this whole heartedly. Parents are the role models in the household and ultimately set the standards.
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I think it's more than just a matter of body type and parents setting an example of healthy eating.

I know a mom and two daughters. They all eat "the same food" and eat reasonably healthy food. One daughter is lean; the other daughter and mom are pudgy. They're not terribly obese, but Mom does weigh more than she should and is having the start of some health problems. Mom chalks it all up to body type, but you know what?  Both that mom and that daughter eat quite a lot. They eat more than they need. It's not what; it's how much. For whatever reason, the chubby girl has ALWAYS, from the youngest toddlerhood, been a big eater and is always thinking of food. IMO, she was too young to have learned that by example, especially since the lean daughter is her older sister. Older sis eats one portion, leaves the table, and has other things to do. Chubby sis also plays, but she asks for food at least once an hour. Both girls are allowed healthy snacks, but the younger just plain eats more. I think a lot of people have simply lost touch with what quantity of food people actually need -- usually a fair amount less than what we're eating. 
#43 - September 01, 2011, 07:47 AM
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mrh--

You aren't kidding about the quantity and portion size. I had this app on my phone (My Fitness, I think) that I could plug in my food intake and track my calories, exercise, etc. It lists portion sizes so you get an idea of how much is a real portion. It really puts things into perspective for you to see how much you have to burn by exercise to eat that cookie you want or to just maintain your weight. I've never really dieted before, but I've struggled to maintain lately, especially post-hysterectomy.

For kids, I know my son's class went over the same things about food choices and portions for their nutrician and health classes, but I'm not sure how much kids think about this stuff. I know I never did as a kid and I ate a lot, but I also biked everywhere--hours a day--and burned tons of calories all the time doing outdoor activities. I'm not saying kids don't do that stuff, but there are so many things that pull them away from physical activities, too.

Sorry to hijack the thread.  :eeyore:  I still agree that this book isn't the best choice to address the issue and certainly misses the mark for the target audience, which Amazon lists is the youngest of elementary school kids.   





 


#44 - September 01, 2011, 05:16 PM

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I've got several friends who are considering self-pubbing and are going the right route (hiring and editor, copy-editor, illustrator). I'm so curious about Mr. Kramer's process. Did he have a crit group who said this is a great idea?

Anyone have an opinion?

Who knows. Even a lot of people in crit groups jump up and down with pom-poms for just about anything.
#45 - September 01, 2011, 08:05 PM

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