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I know that if you put the text of a picture book online accessible by all it's considered 'published' but how does it work with illustrations? If, for example, you have a picture book dummy and you've done your three full-colour spreads, done sketches for all the other spreads too, and you want to put some of it in your online portfolio, would that be a mistake? I'd like to put one colour spread, and the two following pencil sketches up. That can't be a bad move, can it?


I've read editors say they like to see a series of scenes because it gives them an idea of how you address pacing, but they have always been referring to hard-copy portfolios not online. I've also been told that editors don't want your fabulous idea/finished spreads to be 'out there.' I would have thought that all spreads end up changing anyway but maybe I'm being naive about how possessive editors are over an author/illustrator picture book?


Anyone with vast experience able to enlighten me on this?
#1 - August 20, 2014, 06:34 PM

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That should be fine, Siski. 3 or 4 spreads is a small enough portion that it shouldn't be a problem. I have that many up of some of my dummies.
#2 - August 20, 2014, 06:50 PM
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Thanks, Arte! Good to know.
#3 - August 20, 2014, 08:47 PM

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Personally I wouldn't do more than two. Something else that you might consider is taking excerpts from the illustrations, such as details. I hope this helps.
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Your sequential spreads don't have to be from a dummy.  You could illustrate a traditional nursery rhyme, fairytale or song.
#5 - August 21, 2014, 04:25 AM
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I have no more than two spreads from any dummy up on my site. I agree with Marla about doing sequential art from something else. ADs also like to see character development sheets. One of the hardest skills for a book artist is maintaining character consistency. If you show you have a handle on this, it will move you up in the ranks.
#6 - August 21, 2014, 05:33 AM
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Hi, ladies! What is the reasoning behind not putting up more spreads? Will people really steal your ideas? Any wisdom regarding this would be appreciated as I am putting together my online portfolio now. Also, I have a Facebook page that I post my art on quite a bit. Is this not a good idea?

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#7 - December 14, 2014, 03:42 PM
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It's not so much about stolen ideas as it is that if you put a whole dummy up publicly online it can be considered published. (Putting a dummy online that is hidden to searches for the purpose of submitting is different) Publishers generally, except for in some rare cases of things going viral, want unpublished fresh material.

Illustrations in an online portfolio is fine and expected. Watermarking is probably a good idea, especially on sites like fb where sharing is so common.
#8 - December 14, 2014, 06:13 PM
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Personally I wouldn't do more than two. Something else that you might consider is taking excerpts from the illustrations, such as details. I hope this helps.

I should clarify I didn't mean full spreads! I meant pages, a full spread being two pages.  :bewildered I usually put one full spread, and a couple single pages.
#9 - December 14, 2014, 06:17 PM
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You are a helpful gal! Thank you!
#10 - December 14, 2014, 06:34 PM
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