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Alright great minds of the BB, if a bad guy wants to make a boat sink slowly and unnoticed until about 20 minutes out to sea how would he do that?

I am all ears.  :thankyou
#1 - January 30, 2016, 04:21 AM
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How big is the boat? What is it made of? What type of boat is it? How many people aboard?

I don't know ANYTHING about sinking a boat, but I'd still like to know the answers!
#2 - January 30, 2016, 04:46 AM
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Lol Ena.

Let's see. Since I don't know much about boats either I am guessing it is made of fiberglass and it is a small boat just one like you would use around a lake. There are 2 people on board.

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#3 - January 30, 2016, 04:56 AM
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#4 - January 30, 2016, 06:15 AM
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 Oh! That just may work Ena! I was wondering if they had plugs in them and if they were removed would they take on water. Awesome!! :thankyou
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Typically, a boat that size would not be setting out to sea. Twenty minutes away from the coast can put you in some pretty sketchy water. Are they fleeing for their lives or being forced away from the coast?
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I asked my hubby about sinking a boat--he's very mechanical and has owned both big and small boats, bought his first ski boat when he was thirteen. He said if you pull out the drain plug (#29), the boat will take on water and sink quickly--BUT if the boat is underway, the water pressure/physics of moving in a forward direction will actually wick the water out of the boat! When he was a teen, he didn't have a cover for his aluminum ski boat. When it would rain the night before, the boat would fill with several inches of water. Instead of bailing, he would put the boat in the water and quickly get underway, and within a mile the forward momentum would suck the water out. He said he lost the drain plug for a while and still went boating every weekend, but just didn't stop the boat. He would drive in circles while his buddy backed his truck up to the ramp so the boat wouldn't sink while waiting to get pulled out of the water.  :)

One idea for your book would be to have the bad guy take the drain plug out at the last second, set the boat in motion with a limited gas supply, and when the gas runs out, the boat would come to a stop, and sink. Depending on the style of the boat, it might be unnoticed for twenty minutes. Fancier boats would not show the water for quite a while, with the mechanics hidden under a large hatch cover, part of the floor, which can be lifted to get to the lower, internal parts of the boat.

Another idea would be to dismantle the bilge pump, with a leak from the drill hole of Mrs. Jones's #23 slowly filling the boat, or an intentional set of drill holes allowing the water to stream in slowly, but no working bilge pump to get the water out. Once the bilge floods, the battery and other electronics would get wet and fail, too. The bilge is in the same under-hatch area referenced above, which is beneath the part where people openly walk around, so no one would notice for a while.

I hope this helps!  :hug
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Wow, Butterfly Girl. Cool information! :goldstar
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Wow! ButterflyGirl, your hubby is a great resource!

Love brainstorming Blueboarders in action!  :running
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Thanks! I love being married to a guy who can fix things--he's very handy, and smart about what's safe to fix, and when it's time to call an electrician.

He owned a cool boat when we first started dating. We lost the keys one day while playing frisbee in the water, the buoyant key chain must have slipped out of his pocket and floated away. Within ten minutes, he dismantled the dashboard and hot-wired the boat! I was totally impressed, and smitten. My hero.
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This is just so totally the coolest place ever.
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 :lol5 Let's hope not PJ! Now that would mess up my plot.  :grin3

Typically, a boat that size would not be setting out to sea. Twenty minutes away from the coast can put you in some pretty sketchy water. Are they fleeing for their lives or being forced away from the coast?

Good point Laurel. Thanks! I can make it a larger boat. In the book, it is actually the book that the rescue center uses, so I guess it would be bigger then. I know nothing about boats... ;D


Another idea would be to dismantle the bilge pump, with a leak from the drill hole of Mrs. Jones's #23 slowly filling the boat, or an intentional set of drill holes allowing the water to stream in slowly, but no working bilge pump to get the water out. Once the bilge floods, the battery and other electronics would get wet and fail, too. The bilge is in the same under-hatch area referenced above, which is beneath the part where people openly walk around, so no one would notice for a while.

I hope this helps!  :hug

OMG! Sarah! I should have known you and your hubby would have the answer to this. The bilge pump and drilling the holes is exactly the kind of sinking I need. It can also be what happened 5 years earlier (you know what I'm talking about :)) that connects then and now even more so. YAY! Perfect!! Thank you!! And thank Doug for me as well!!


Love brainstorming Blueboarders in action!  :running

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This is just so totally the coolest place ever.

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I have no boat expertise to add, but wow! - so much great info. here!  I am in awe! 

 :goodluck, Sharon! 
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Thanks Sue!! :hug
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Great responses to this interesting question. All I can think of is when years ago my uncle was so excited to get out on the water, that he got in one end of a small rowboat and soon the other end went up and into the drink he went. Took a while to dry out his shoes, wallet, etc.
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This is just so totally the coolest place ever.

This.
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Oh no! Marcia, so glad your uncle got out okay. I bet it makes for a fun story now...probably not then though.  :grin3
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